[wp-trac] [WordPress Trac] #35391: Remove title attributes: the Posts Date column full date and time
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#35391: Remove title attributes: the Posts Date column full date and time
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Reporter: afercia | Owner: afercia
Type: defect (bug) | Status: reopened
Priority: normal | Milestone: 5.4
Component: Administration | Version:
Severity: normal | Resolution:
Keywords: has-screenshots title-attribute | Focuses: ui,
tooltips has-patch 2nd-opinion | accessibility
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Comment (by afercia):
Ideally, the date/time string should use the same format of the Comments
one: date and time separated by ` at `
{{{
$t_time = sprintf(
/* translators: 1: Post date, 2: Post time. */
__( '%1$s at %2$s' ),
/* translators: Post date format. See https://www.php.net/date */
get_the_time( __( 'Y/m/d' ), $post ),
/* translators: Post time format. See https://www.php.net/date */
get_the_time( __( 'g:i:s a' ), $post )
);
}}}
Question: is it really important to show the seconds? Comments show only
hour and minutes.
The visual issues stay though, including lack of visual hierarchy between
the status (Published, Scheduled, etc.) and the date/time. Overall, I'm
not sure this is a case where the "decisions not options" philosophy is
the best approach. Users have different needs. A default format based on
an assumption doesn't fit all needs.
Some users would prefer a "cleaner" view, with a friendly human readable
date/time format. Other users would prefer or even need a detailed
date/time format. Applications designed for a large, diverse, audience
provide options for that. For example. Gmail provides three options for
the "Display density" setting:
- Default
- Comfortable (cleaner)
- Compact (smaller rows)
I do realize this should apply to the whole table. It would also be an
opportunity to improve one of the long-standing issues with the various
tables in the admin: cluttered UI and information density.
The current "Excerpt View" isn't really the right place for an option to
change the way the date/time is displayed because:
- the UI makes its best to hide this setting under the "Screen options": I
wonder how many users are aware an "Excerpt View" exists
- it's not explained anywhere that it also changes the date/time display
- it's called "Excerpt View": a name that doesn't clarify what it does
For now, I'd be in favour of just displaying the full date/time. Loss of
information should never happen because "there's no available space in the
UI". That's a UI problem. A good UI should be designed around the content
it is supposed to display, not the other way around.
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Ticket URL: <https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/35391#comment:17>
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