[wp-trac] [WordPress Trac] #44671: The "Try Gutenberg" call-out needs an explicit warning for users of assistive technology users and keyboard only users to install the classic editor plugin, complete with its own heading

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#44671: The "Try Gutenberg" call-out needs an explicit warning for users of
assistive technology users and keyboard only users to install the classic
editor plugin, complete with its own heading
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 Reporter:  arush        |       Owner:  (none)
     Type:  enhancement  |      Status:  new
 Priority:  normal       |   Milestone:  4.9.8
Component:  Editor       |     Version:  trunk
 Severity:  normal       |  Resolution:
 Keywords:               |     Focuses:  accessibility
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Description changed by SergeyBiryukov:

Old description:

> The "Try Gutenberg" call-out needs to have an explicit recommendation
> targeted at both assistive technology users and keyboard only users that
> they should install the classic editor plugin and that these users should
> continue to use the classic editor plugin even when 5.0 ships. This is
> because for these groups of users, Gutenberg is not ready for prime-time,
> and as far as I can tell from the conversation over on Github, complete
> accessibility and useability, (or the lack thereof), are not blockers
> when it comes to release. of Gutenberg. Furthermore, as admin notices
> currently stand, they are more often than not skipped by screen reader
> users due to the very high amount of abuse of said notices by theme and
> plugin authors. So I believe this one needs to have its own heading,
> (something like "Very important"), to draw attention to the fact that the
> one regarding Gutenberg and assistive tech/keyboard only users is one
> that should not be skipped. There's no way for WordPress to detect
> whether or not a screen reader is in use, or dictation software such as
> Dragon, and given Gutenberg's current state of accessibility, asking AT
> or keyboard only users to try Gutenberg without warning them of the
> pitfalls involved would be at best problematic. Also, when 5.0 ships, and
> Gutenberg is roled into core, turning it on automatically for these user
> groups at least is going to cause a whole lot of unnecessary headaches at
> best, and anger and frustration at worst. Accessibility experts who are
> also long-time, heavy screen reader users, or straight-up screen reader
> experts or assistive technologists, and on top of either of those have
> spent a decade or more using and developing with WordPress on a daily
> basis, find it impossible to get anything done efficiently with
> Gutenberg. Same with keyboard-only users. And if the experts are having
> all this trouble, the people who are not experts in accessibility, screen
> reader usage, or WordPress usage are going to have a lot more trouble. So
> I believe it is our responsibility as a project to do our best to help
> all these people make a decision that's going to have the least negative
> impact on their use of WordPress.
>
> Amanda

New description:

 The "Try Gutenberg" call-out needs to have an explicit recommendation
 targeted at both assistive technology users and keyboard only users that
 they should install the classic editor plugin and that these users should
 continue to use the classic editor plugin even when 5.0 ships. This is
 because for these groups of users, Gutenberg is not ready for prime-time,
 and as far as I can tell from the conversation over on Github, complete
 accessibility and useability, (or the lack thereof), are not blockers when
 it comes to release of Gutenberg.

 Furthermore, as admin notices currently stand, they are more often than
 not skipped by screen reader users due to the very high amount of abuse of
 said notices by theme and plugin authors. So I believe this one needs to
 have its own heading, (something like "Very important"), to draw attention
 to the fact that the one regarding Gutenberg and assistive tech/keyboard
 only users is one that should not be skipped.

 There's no way for WordPress to detect whether or not a screen reader is
 in use, or dictation software such as Dragon, and given Gutenberg's
 current state of accessibility, asking AT or keyboard only users to try
 Gutenberg without warning them of the pitfalls involved would be at best
 problematic. Also, when 5.0 ships, and Gutenberg is roled into core,
 turning it on automatically for these user groups at least is going to
 cause a whole lot of unnecessary headaches at best, and anger and
 frustration at worst.

 Accessibility experts who are also long-time, heavy screen reader users,
 or straight-up screen reader experts or assistive technologists, and on
 top of either of those have spent a decade or more using and developing
 with WordPress on a daily basis, find it impossible to get anything done
 efficiently with Gutenberg. Same with keyboard-only users. And if the
 experts are having all this trouble, the people who are not experts in
 accessibility, screen reader usage, or WordPress usage are going to have a
 lot more trouble. So I believe it is our responsibility as a project to do
 our best to help all these people make a decision that's going to have the
 least negative impact on their use of WordPress.

 Amanda

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