[wp-trac] [WordPress Trac] #41316: Introduce "Try Gutenberg" callout

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#41316: Introduce "Try Gutenberg" callout
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 Reporter:  melchoyce         |       Owner:  pento
     Type:  task (blessed)    |      Status:  reopened
 Priority:  normal            |   Milestone:  4.9
Component:  Editor            |     Version:
 Severity:  normal            |  Resolution:
 Keywords:  has-patch commit  |     Focuses:  administration
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Changes (by Clorith):

 * status:  closed => reopened
 * resolution:  fixed =>


Comment:

 I'm going to re-open this, as I don't feel various scenarios have been
 discussed that may have a large impact on sites.

 Firstly, I'm worried, as @celloexpressions has already mentioned, about
 including beta software and encouraging it's use, both the plugin page,
 AND the Gutenberg page on WordPress.org state "do not use this on
 production sites", yet we're encouraging them to do so.

 The about page on WordPress.org doesn't actually give any information, it
 just says "this is the future" with some images that do not really convey
 what is going on, and has a whole paragraph dedicated to telling you not
 to install it on a production site (I'm clearly not the target audience
 here, but I'm sure others will feel just as confused as I was after
 looking over it).

 There's also accessibility issues with the Gutenberg page on
 WordPress.org, like the "who will see the most difference" being just a
 straw-person drawing with no alt text, it took me a moment to realize that
 was the intended use of that image, and I am able to see the image.

 There was also mention of technical debt, this is where my primary
 concerns lie, and where I suspect most scenarios will lie.

 If I install Gutenberg, I edit my post, I put in a nice gallery, then I
 remove Gutenberg for whatever reason, I now lose the Gutenberg styling
 that is applied to the gallery. A gallery and a paragraph aren't the
 worst, these only lose minor styling and nothing more, but still
 bothersome.

 I've added a fancy looking widget, I want to list recent posts, this looks
 good, but again I disabled Gutenberg, I now "lost" content, as the block
 is no longer rendered. It's still there, in my post content, but hidden as
 HTML comment markup, but to me, I just lost a part of my content.

 Now let's say I've added a lot of blocks, paragraphs, some images, then I
 disable Gutenberg. I notice that the page isn't looking so hot any more,
 so I go into the normal editor, I fix up my paragraphs and my images, and
 I'm happy as it looks normal. Then 5.0 comes around, Gutenberg is now in
 core and suddenly my pages are overflowing with blocks and widgets,
 because the HTML markup was hidden in the editor, but it was still in my
 post content.

 A VERY unrelated issue that we shouldn't have to worry about when
 Gutenberg hits core, but it should be at least mentioned when we're doing
 promotions like this; Caching/optimization plugins generally strip html
 comments from content, depending on when they process the post content
 this may be before or after content is generated by Gutenberg and we may
 end up with false positive bugs from missing blocks or content. Not a
 major concern like the points above imho, but still worth a mention for
 tracking purposes.

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 The minimalist approach for the call out box is great, people don't like
 reading, but we need to be more descriptive about possible pitfalls of
 using beta software on a production site, especially if we are going to
 promote such use.

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