[wp-trac] [WordPress Trac] #22044: Twenty Twelve: Support Media Queries on IE7/8 (don't use mobile menu)

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#22044: Twenty Twelve: Support Media Queries on IE7/8 (don't use mobile menu)
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 Reporter:  bpetty         |       Owner:
     Type:  defect (bug)   |      Status:  new
 Priority:  normal         |   Milestone:  3.5
Component:  Bundled Theme  |     Version:  trunk
 Severity:  normal         |  Resolution:
 Keywords:  has-patch      |
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Comment (by Ov3rfly):

 Replying to [comment:6 obenland]:
 > This was previously discussed extensively on Trac ... and IRC ..., so
 this is really not a huge oversight.
 >
 > And as @lancewillett pointed out in
 [http://make.wordpress.org/themes/2012/09/18/default-themes-change-each-
 year/ Why Default Themes Change Each Year]:
 >  "[...] the default theme isn’t trying to be an end-all-be-all theme. It
 won’t please everyone."
 My two cents:

 1.) Obviously nobody really tested Twenty Twelve on "real life pc-systems"
 at all. Only one week before 1.0 release I downloaded 0.9 and spotted
 clearly visible layout problems after a 5 minutes test in Firefox and
 Chrome, didn't do any tests in IE, otherwise there would have been more
 bugs in tracker...

 5 Minutes test results: #21964, #21965

 The IE disaster now confirms this assumption.

 2.) A responsive design should be written completely the other way round.
 Default look should be available without media queries, with maybe some
 conditionals for older browsers (which also can be added by third party).
 "Narrow" look should be done with media queries.

 These two major problems make the really nice looking Twenty Twelve (props
 to the designer) in the current version 1.0 unfortunately '''a total
 failure which will also give WordPress itself a bad name'''.

 Many big companies are "lightyears" away from migration to Windows 7 and
 run mostly XP on their desktops, maybe even with IE7. My various stats
 have over 50% IE7/IE8. This is not a problem with Twenty Ten and Twenty
 Eleven (and the child themes which are based on them). But all these users
 are basically kicked out with current Twenty Twelve if it ships like this
 as default with next WordPress.

 Note: I have also posted this rant [http://wordpress.org/support/topic
 /theme-twenty-twelve-nav-bar-fails-in-ie8 here] for further discussion.

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