[wp-trac] [WordPress Trac] #20956: Navigation changes: Posts/Pages

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#20956: Navigation changes: Posts/Pages
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 Reporter:  jane         |       Owner:
     Type:  enhancement  |      Status:  new
 Priority:  normal       |   Milestone:  Awaiting Review
Component:  UI           |     Version:  3.4
 Severity:  normal       |  Resolution:
 Keywords:  has-patch    |
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Comment (by martythornley):

 This has two areas I've always wanted to see discussed - the placement of
 Posts, Media, Links, Pages and the ability to better re-order menu items.

 Thanks for sharing the reasoning behind the Pages being below Media and
 Links - get asked about that all the time. :) Totally makes sense when
 explained that way.

 In my experience, both in dealing with clients and seeing the changes of
 WordPress away from "just a blogging software" to a "real CMS", the
 renaming of Posts to Blog seems like a step backwards. Many ( too many )
 people have a negative connotation towards "blogging" and have to be
 convinced that it is not a blog but their "news" section, or some other
 take on it. Others see a blog as unprofessional. They want a "professional
 website"... All just perception of people who have never had a website
 before but it is a real concern from the people we are building sites for.

 On the developer's side, I could suggest a few reasons for not doing this
 too. It is fairly easy to set up as many page templates as you want that
 display different categories of posts. So we could have a "News" section
 and a "Blog" section and just use different categories of posts. By
 limiting all "posts" to just a "Blog", it would make it necessary to use
 custom post types for other things. Not a huge deal, since custom post
 types are fairly easy to setup at this point, but it could add items to
 the menu. Take a magazine/news style site. This could be literally
 hundreds of categories and subcategories and no one thinking of it as a
 "blog".

 Just my initial reaction based on how I see client's sites being used. I
 see the confusion between Posts and Pages being next to each other but I
 think renaming it to Blog creates some bigger confusions.

 Just an idea.. but what if there were just two simple filters or hooks of
 some kind to give theme/plugin developers control over the default post
 types? So we have Posts and Pages which are added to all sites and stuck
 into the menu where they are. On some sites, I have had to NOT use posts
 at all because they don't use it and just want a simple five page site ( I
 know crazy but it has happened ) and they get stuck with a "posts" section
 that doesn't do anything. Or sites where they wanted only a blog and so
 pages are hidden.

 Couldn't we add a way to quickly rename Posts and Pages and decide whether
 they are being used at all? If there was a filter to alter post types, we
 could rename them, and if there was a filter for all registered post
 types, we could decide whether to add, remove post types. Haven't even
 looked at how or where to do this but it sounds like a much more flexible
 way to do it.

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