[wp-hackers] Better approach for post formats

[Chip Bennett]

I actually wish core *would* impose at least *some* Post-Format
implementation conventions - primarily regarding Post *data* entry.
Imposition (or, more accurately, simply *definition*) of such conventions
would actually *help* facilitate more widespread use/support of Post Formats
by Theme developers.

Though, I understand completely the reasoning. As you noted: Post Formats
really are simply a custom taxonomy, wrapped with some dedicated template
tags. But, I think they've been around long enough - and have seen
widespread-enough adoption - for a data-entry convention to be defined.

Chip

On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Otto <otto at ottodestruct.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Andrés Sanhueza
> <peroyomaslists at gmail.com> wrote:
> > The whole idea was clearly inspired by Tumblr. Hence, I think that by
> > justifying the adding of new PHP tags for post formats should be
> > something like actually changing the post UI by hiding or showing the
> > relevant fields required for each kind of format, such as showing
> > different metaboxes for quote (one for the actual quote, other for the
> > credit), for status (hiding the title one), for video (one metabox for
> > the raw code or oEmbed link and the other for custom text) and the
> > like. It may probably look better as a tab at the top of the post
> > panel. The Tumblr template "API" can give you some ideas
> > http://www.tumblr.com/docs/en/custom_themes
>
> The original idea for post formats wasn't even code, it was just going
> to be a codex page about a post format taxonomy.
>
> It's unlikely that core will be tackling a UI shifting pattern for
> post formats for at least another couple of versions, simply because
> themes *are* doing it differently and no common standard has emerged
> yet. Until there's a common and accepted pattern, anything core does
> would just be disagreed with by most theme authors.
>
> Even your own ideas of what fields to use are non-standard. Many
> people only put "status" in the title field. I see that a fair amount,
> actually, and have had to make plugin changes to accommodate people
> who do that.
>
> Themes don't have to support post formats, and most don't support but
> a few of them. This is why it's optional and granular.
>
> > I proposed this in WordPress ideas based on some post of Matt in the
> > Dev blog and, despite the support, it was marked as a theme issue :(
>
> It *is* a theme issue. Theme authors have to come together and decide
> on standards too. Core can't impose them all the time.
>
> -Otto
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