[wp-hackers] comments should be a plugin

[gr0b1]

+1 to this discussion.
I really hope this is what we can expect of WordPress in the coming
releases.
And like Scott said functionalities activated by default but with an
easy way of turning them off.

-Ben

On Mar 7, 3:02 am, Scott Kingsley Clark <sc0ttkcl... at gmail.com> wrote:
> I recognize things like this take time, I was just making sure you
> weren't against it for other reasons. Comments probably won't go
> canonical just because many core devs deem it not to do so, but it's
> discussions like this that foster the "why is it core" question, and
> ask if there's a better way or if we're just sticking to a structure
> that's always been and are afraid to change or modify it. I'm not
> saying comments shouldn't be part of a core release, just that it
> should be separated out (amongst other things) for users to decide for
> themselves. Again, it would be enabled by default so no one would know
> the difference but the developers and users who don't want it.
>
> -Scott
>
> On Mar 6, 8:52 pm, Ptah Dunbar <p... at ptahd.com> wrote:> Hey Scott, let's clarify my statement.
>
> > Looking at the facts, WP is currently used by millions of users. Millions. And if you were to compare the ratio of users to developers, users would definitely win by a lane slide. My statement comes from recognizing this fact, not because I'm stuck to an "a la carte" mindset. I'm a developer just like you who would _love_ if WP immediately got rid of all the "developer considered" bloat and turn it into a more frameworky CMS that just comes with essential CMS core components and it's current UI.
>
> > I did an interview a while ago where one of the question was along the lines of Where would you say WordPress is in terms of it’s Life Cycle?" And I said it's an 18 year old teenager. WP started out as blogging software but is currently transitioning over into a more general purpose CMS. It's got a lot of growing up to do. Version 3.0 is the first version to truly make that big step with custom post types. How long did that take? My point is, you're way ahead of the wp development cycle by assuming something like a canonical comments plugin will see the light of day--anytime soon.
>
> > Version 2.9 *just* introduced a new comments meta table to make comments more extendable. You can do things like create a bug reporting system, or Get satisfaction-esque support website if you knew anything about the comments meta table and custom comment types. Don't limit comments to just blogging features. They have all kinds of use case scenarios if your willing to accept the fact that WP _can_ do a lot out of the box.
>
> > So again, I'm not being close minded, I'm just looking at the facts. Comments ain't going no where anytime soon.
>
> > On Mar 7, 2010, at 3:20 AM, Scott Kingsley Clark wrote:
>
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