[wp-hackers] Alternate paging URLs

[Dave Viner]

Regardless of the better/worse solution for URL structure, it seems
reasonable that WP should provide a relatively simple way to override the
paging schema used.

I had to implement a bunch of code to change the /page/N to anything else.
 It should be pluggable.

Dave Viner

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Mike Schinkel
<mikeschinkel at newclarity.net>wrote:

> On Mar 3, 2010, at 4:14 PM, scribu wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Dan Phiffer <dan at phiffer.org> wrote:
> >> On Mar 3, 2010, at 11:40 AM, Dave Viner wrote:
> >>> After all, when a user is going from page to page, they usually want to
> >> see the
> >>> latest information, not necessarily the identical information to what
> was
> >>> shown before.
> >> This is one assumption my alternative is trying to draw attention to. It
> is
> >> true that *usually* pagination is used this way, but what happens if I
> >> bookmark one of these views for later, or if I create a short URL to
> page
> >> 40? I'm trying to link to the particular content on those pages, not the
> >> position from the newest content. The particular content on these pages
> will
> >> change over time and my links will rot.
> > That sounds naive. It's like trying to link to a portion of the twitter
> > stream. Of course you're going to get link rot.
> >
> > A better idea would be to link to a group of posts posted on a certain
> date:
> >
> > http://example.com/2009/11/20
>
> While I agree the latter makes more sense, I wouldn't say the former is
> naive.   Sadly, too many people just don't get URLs as evidenced by the
> ReadWriteWeb/Facebook Login fiasco:
>
> http://jonoscript.wordpress.com/2010/02/18/some-people-cant-read-urls/
>
> It is really incumbent on the site designer to create URLs that won't rot
> when bookmarked, as much as they reasonable can. In this case the site
> designer is the core WordPress team, not individual site designers.
>
> Twitter fixed this (somewhat) by loading pages on the same URL via AJAX.
>  They could have used AJAX to also annotate the URL with a hash indicating
> the start and end range and then had the hash load the expected values via
> AJAX. Even better would be to change the URL path when the new values are
> loaded but I can't remember for sure if that's possible (I know changing the
> hast is possible because I've used that technique for a video gallery
> before.). If they had done these things their links would not rot.
>
> Of course for people who want to bookmark "current list", this isn't idea
> so I would lean towards annotating the URL if the user goes to page 2, etc..
> Too bad browsers don't give AJAX a hook for when someone cuts or copies a
> URL from the browser bar.
>
> -Mike
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