[wp-hackers] Idea: Widgets as custom post types

[John O'Nolan]

I agree with you in principle, but there comes a point where a naming  
convention such as "posts" does not apply to all content in a  
"publishing platform" (CMS/whatever).

Surely moving widgets and links all into the wp_posts table would  
screw up backwards compatibility just as much as renaming it? (correct  
me if I'm wrong on that one, I'm genuinely asking)

Cheers

John



On 2 Mar 2010, at 21:29, Justin Shreve wrote:

> Both. Since the introduction of plugins, pages, etc.
>
> WordPress doesn't just say it's a blogging platform, it says that it  
> is
> (quote):
>
> "*WordPress* is a state-of-the-art publishing platform with a focus on
> aesthetics, web standards, and usability."
>
> It's a publishing platform. - That means support for other types of  
> things
> and not just posts (articles, recipes, whatever).  I agree wp_posts  
> may be
> confusing but as mentioned I think that is for backwards  
> compatibility.
>
> On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 4:25 PM, John O'Nolan <john.wp at onolan.org>  
> wrote:
>
>> I think that maybe the small amount of confusion that's arising  
>> here is
>> caused by the naming convention rather than the actual issue of  
>> where table
>> content is moved to. "wp_posts" fundamentally suggests that this is  
>> a table
>> containing a single type of content, and that type is "posts". If  
>> the table
>> is now to be looked at as:
>>
>> "thinking of 'content types' rather than 'post types'." [- Justin]
>>
>> Then I have to say that I think the word "post" is beginning to  
>> become just
>> as confusing as the word "node" is in the Drupal world.
>>
>> I Wordpress a blogging platform or a CMS?
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2 Mar 2010, at 21:16, Mike Schinkel wrote:
>>
>> On Mar 2, 2010, at 3:43 PM, Michael Pretty wrote:
>>>
>>>> Heck, lets go ahead and put the terms tables into the posts  
>>>> table.  No
>>>> reason we can't turn the entire database into a nodal system.  :)
>>>>
>>>> 3 tables:
>>>> objects
>>>> objects_to_objects_map
>>>> object_meta
>>>>
>>>
>>> Funny, I suggested as much back on the 14th:
>>>
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/wp-hackers/msg/5b94903c68ae1ec1
>>>
>>> On Mar 2, 2010, at 3:53 PM, Otto wrote:
>>>
>>>> Changing Links into Posts does not make sense to me.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Debate it with Matt.
>>>
>>> If Links needs to be expanded, then I'd support that. Why can't  
>>> links
>>>> be tagged? It wouldn't be hard to add "link-tag" to the taxonomies.
>>>> Much better solution than shifting a link to a post. How do you
>>>> display a link as a post? Best I can think of would be a  
>>>> redirect. ;)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Think in terms of a directory of links.  A link can have a recent
>>> screenshot of the link, a description of the link, a title for the  
>>> link, a
>>> category in which fits, a set of tags about the link, custom  
>>> fields about
>>> the link (i.e. address maybe?) and more.  With custom post types  
>>> the need
>>> for links go away so all link functionality should be rolled in  
>>> for use by
>>> custom post types.
>>>
>>> Widgets should be made more generic, yes. But most likely they  
>>> should
>>>> be given their *own* table. Why? Because it's difficult to  
>>>> imagine a
>>>> solid case for representing a single widget as a whole post page as
>>>> well.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Difficult for you to imagine maybe, but not for me and I'll bet  
>>> not for
>>> many others.
>>>
>>> A widget page would show what the widget is capable of, show  
>>> screenshots
>>> of it in use, and be linked to taxonomy of types of widgets.  So I  
>>> have to
>>> disagree with you again, widgets in the posts table makes a lot of  
>>> sense.
>>>
>>> -Mike
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