[wp-hackers] Quest for Self Pingbacks

Mon Aug 31 21:14:16 UTC 2009

My theme has that which then shows up like this in a "view source":
<link rel="pingback" href="http://www.solo-technology.com/blog/xmlrpc.php"
/>

But... wouldn't you think the DB entries should be there FIRST?

I hate to keep kicking this same dead & tired horse, but since I never get
values in "pinged" / "to_ping" columns in the Posts table it ain't ever
going to try to ping, right?

What would stop the self-pingbacks from getting added to those columns in
the DB? Seems like maybe that's my root cause.

Chris Kasten
Solo Technology

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Otto <otto at ottodestruct.com> wrote:

> In your theme, is this line in the header?
>
> <link rel="pingback" href="<?php bloginfo('pingback_url'); ?>" />
>
> Pingbacks need that to work.
>
> -Otto
>
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Chris Kasten<handy.solo at gmail.com> wrote:
> > The patch made no changes in my lack of ability to self-ping.
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Chris Kasten <handy.solo at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I'll give it a shot and report back.
> >> Meanwhile... It alarms me that my self links never get collected and
> added
> >> to the to_ping / pinged columns in the Posts table. Or are they briefly
> >> there and removed when the pingback fails?
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 12:05 AM, Peter Westwood <
> >> peter.westwood at ftwr.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Could you try on your test blog with the patch on this ticket applied.
> >>>
> >>> http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/10588
> >>>
> >>> This switches the IXR class over to use the WordPress HTTP api instead
> of
> >>> fsockopen for connections it should be more reliable.
> >>>
> >>> Please leave feedback on your sucess/lack there of on the ticket.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Peter Westwood
> >>> http://peter.westwood.name
> >>>
> >>> On 30 Aug 2009, at 03:17, Chris Kasten <handy.solo at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  Future posts do indeed work (mentioned a couple stanzas below your
> reply
> >>>> ;-)
> >>>> )
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Dion Hulse (dd32) <
> wordpress at dd32.id.au
> >>>> >wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>  Is the cron system working?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Try a future-publish post, See if that gets published (Thats based on
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> Cron system).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 12:11:44 +1000, Chris Kasten <
> handy.solo at gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On a fresh locally install blog self pingbacks work just fine. I
> guess
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> this
> >>>>>> may be a Dreamhost related issue?What a bummer.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I poked around through the access and error logs but didn't see any
> >>>>>> obvious
> >>>>>> errors.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Chris Kasten <handy.solo at gmail.com
> >
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm hosted on Dreamhost. As mentioned earlier, self pings were good
> >>>>>> until
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> the beginning of this year (which may coincide with a WP release? I
> >>>>>>> can't
> >>>>>>> recall now).
> >>>>>>> I also tried a pingback from one of my blogs to the other (but both
> on
> >>>>>>> Dreamhost and both in same domain). Same deal, no pingback and
> nothing
> >>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>> the ping fields in the Posts table.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I just tested a future post and it worked. What else would you like
> me
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>> try? I get the same results with my blog as I do with a test blog
> (no
> >>>>>>> plugins / default theme).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I guess one next step would be to get one going locally (as in not
> on
> >>>>>>> Dreamhost) and see how self pings go there. Anything else I should
> >>>>>>> look
> >>>>>>> at?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> From your note, it sounds like I can assume that self pings
> _should_
> >>>>>>> still
> >>>>>>> work?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Peter Westwood <
> >>>>>>> peter.westwood at ftwr.co.uk
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It sounds like you are suffering from oases which prevent the self
> >>>>>>> pings
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> from working.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> This is normally due to hosting confug in relation to connections
> >>>>>>>> back
> >>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>> your server from your server.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Does the built in cron system work for you? For example does
> future
> >>>>>>>> publishing posts work?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Peter Westwood
> >>>>>>>> http://peter.westwood.name
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 29 Aug 2009, at 18:47, Chris Kasten <handy.solo at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Yes thanks. I realize a lot of people don't like them.  That's why
> >>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>  No
> >>>>>>>>> Pings plugin was invented! But I do like 'em and WP used to
> generate
> >>>>>>>>> them.
> >>>>>>>>> Like or dislike, I just wish to confirm that they (self pings)
> are
> >>>>>>>>> indeed
> >>>>>>>>> dropped by WP now. If so, A nudge on how to re-enable them with a
> >>>>>>>>> plugin
> >>>>>>>>> would be really groovy.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Chris Kasten
> >>>>>>>>> Solo Technology
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Rics <ricardo.cezar at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Personally, I don't like self trackbacks... it's anoying.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>  I prefer to have related posts and use trackback only from other
> >>>>>>>>>> websites.
> >>>>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>>>> Rics
> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.pensarics.com
> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.meadiciona.com/rics
> >>>>>>>>>> Maringá, PR - Brasil
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> 2009/8/29 scribu <scribu at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> That's ironic, since there's a plugin that does the opposite.
> It's
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>  called
> >>>>>>>>>>> No
> >>>>>>>>>>> Self Pings.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://scribu.net
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