[wp-hackers] Re: Not Feeling Crazyhorse

Mon Sep 15 09:40:29 GMT 2008

I suggested making everyone happy by building some sort of "user-made
admin template" API, back in August.
http://comox.textdrive.com/pipermail/wp-hackers/2008-August/021448.html
Got a bit of traction around here, if I remember well, but now we're
too far in dev, and too close to feature freeze, to think about that.
I think its too bad, really, 'cos it could really have been a huge
plus for both users (ability to choose between 2.3, 2.5 and 2.7-style)
and developers (ability to build tailor-made admin for clients).

I still think it's a neat idea, and wish the core-team would consider
this for the near future (2.7 might be too late, so 2.8?)

-xb.

2008/9/14 Frank Bueltge <frank at bueltge.de>:
> Why is it not possible to set the backend-theme in the user-settings.
> All functions for this feature is in the core. It si hard for many
> users you change very often the design.
> I use wordpress in many buisiness-bligs with many authors. I set the
> backend theme on design of WP 2.3 - the people tha tankyou, she will
> not changes i the backend.
>
> Liebe Grüsse
> Frank
> ______________________________
> Mein Buch: WordPress - Weblogs einrichten und administrieren | ISBN
> 978-3-937514-33-8
>
> bueltge.de
> kvfl.com
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Aaron Brazell <emmensetech at gmail.com> wrote:
>> For me its not about the look and feel or ugliness. Is about
>> usability. After a month of using and hoping I'd "get used to it",
>> understanding from years of being a support person that users are
>> change-averse but generally get used to changes after time, and I have
>> not got used to it. It doesn't "feel" right and its not about colors,
>> fonts, or backend functionality.
>>
>> If someone cares to clarify the semantic efforts here, I'd welcome it.
>> To me, though, its a layour change like any other layout change. I'm
>> happy to be corrected. I admit not being close to the development
>> cycle on this.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/14/08, Stephane Daury <wordpress at tekartist.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm assuming that the plugins options page contention is that the
>>> usual "/wp-admin/options-general.php?page=plugin_dir/plugin_file.php"
>>> seems to not be working and does not load the plugin's options pages.
>>>
>>> But this might just be because it's not ready yet.
>>>
>>> Stephane
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 14, 2008, at 7:02, Frank Bueltge wrote:
>>>
>>>> I use in a lot of plugins with mayx options the html of the metaboxes,
>>>> open/cles div-areas.
>>>> This ist not a nice css in 2.7
>>>>
>>>> Why ist not possible to set for the user a design?
>>>>
>>>> Liebe Grüsse
>>>> Frank
>>>> ______________________________
>>>> Mein Buch: WordPress - Weblogs einrichten und administrieren | ISBN
>>>> 978-3-937514-33-8
>>>>
>>>> bueltge.de
>>>> kvfl.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Viper007Bond
>>>> <viper at viper007bond.com> wrote:
>>>>> I like how everyone is commenting on the looks of the admin area
>>>>> and it's
>>>>> not even done yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for a new options page, all of my plugins work just fine in 2.7
>>>>> with no
>>>>> modifications. Not quite sure what you mean.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 3:06 AM, Frank Bueltge <frank at bueltge.de>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think the actually verson of the design in backend is very ugly.
>>>>>> The
>>>>>> html and CSS is very bad und man gugs.
>>>>>> Th deisgn is also hard for plugin-authors. Many plugins is must
>>>>>> write
>>>>>> a new page for options.
>>>>>> I hope, this is noct the end of the design in  backend and i hope
>>>>>> alos, the user can change on your progile to the last 3 design
>>>>>> (WP2.3
>>>>>> and WP 2.5 classic and frsh)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry for my bad english!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Liebe Grüsse
>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>> ______________________________
>>>>>> Mein Buch: WordPress - Weblogs einrichten und administrieren | ISBN
>>>>>> 978-3-937514-33-8
>>>>>>
>>>>>> bueltge.de
>>>>>> kvfl.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 6:47 AM, Jacob Santos <wordpress at santosj.name
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> I do not share you lack of distaste in Crazyhorse. I do think it is
>>>>>> almost
>>>>>>> humorous that there are many bugs just testing through it. I
>>>>>>> haven't
>>>>>> filed
>>>>>>> any bug reports because there are just too many that they would be
>>>>>>> overwhelmed. I'm going to take note of them and wait until the
>>>>>>> freeze is
>>>>>>> conducted before filing the tickets. Hopefully, they will be
>>>>>>> corrected.
>>>>>> It
>>>>>>> is the second half of September and while it is far more stable
>>>>>>> than when
>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> first looked at it, I'm still not going to upgrade.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To me personally, the level of customization within the various
>>>>>>> pages is
>>>>>>> enjoyable. I have to say, I find some sort of happiness being
>>>>>>> able to
>>>>>> remove
>>>>>>> tags column, as well as other columns that I can see myself not
>>>>>>> using on
>>>>>>> some WordPress projects.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think too many people are seeing this as a new administration
>>>>>>> panel
>>>>>>> instead of what it is meant to be, an iteration of the current
>>>>>>> administration panel. Yeah, there are many changes being made,
>>>>>>> but many
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> them are needed to ensure the ease of usability. Many parts are
>>>>>>> intuitive
>>>>>>> and I suggest giving the newborn some time before judging it "ugly"
>>>>>> perhaps
>>>>>>> it will grow up to be quite beautiful.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you are more specific in your objections, I'm sure the team
>>>>>>> might be
>>>>>> able
>>>>>>> to do something about it. They are currently collecting input on
>>>>>>> whether
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> "New Post" button should be at the top or where the menu is. That
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>> added
>>>>>>> after the testing and so there haven't been enough input on which
>>>>>> location
>>>>>>> it should be.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jacob Santos
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Aaron Brazell wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey folks-
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've been using trunk on one of my blogs and tracked the
>>>>>>>> Crazyhorse
>>>>>> stuff.
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> guess part of me hoped that there would be some sense brought to
>>>>>>>> it, but
>>>>>>>> then everything I hated about it was merged into trunk. No
>>>>>>>> offense to
>>>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>>> who did any of the work, but it just doesn't feel right.
>>>>>>>> Thinking it
>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>> just be me, I got second opinions. It just doesn't feel right.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Granted, we're on this course now and there's no turning back.
>>>>>>>> It would
>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> nice, though, if there were a option to use the more traditional
>>>>>>>> backend
>>>>>>>> instead. Something along the lines of the Fresh/Classic color
>>>>>>>> scheme
>>>>>>>> switcher. Thoughts?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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