[wp-hackers] WP Roadmap Project

[Viper007Bond]

I'm pretty sure there aren't any hooks before plugins are loaded. As you
said, what would be the point of having them there if nothing could make use
of them?

As for includes/requires, PHP has you covered -- no core editing required:
http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.get-included-files.php

You still haven't offered a valid reason of why this couldn't just be a
couple line plugin. :P

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 4:42 AM, Gaarai <gaarai at gaarai.com> wrote:

> I thought of doing that, but it really wouldn't offer exactly what I need.
> If I implemented this hook via a plugin, it would miss a number of calls by
> the time it gets loaded. In order to ensure that it gets in first, I would
> have to modify the core files. Since I'm already modifying the core files,
> why not track things that could not possibly be tracked without modifying
> the core code (such as includes and requires)? This way, I get a full start
> to finish view of what is happening rather than just a collection of action
> and filter calls.
>
> Of course it could still be argued that seeing so far back into the
> execution of the code is pointless since a plugin or theme would never have
> the ability to interact at that level. I still would like to know where how
> all the different pieces come together. Furthermore, you never know when
> there will be someone that wants to actually modify the core for whatever
> reason.
>
> - Chris Jean
>
>
> Viper007Bond wrote:
>
>> You know you could have just used the "all" hook...
>>
>> add_action( 'all', 'action_debug', 10, 100 );
>> function action_debug() {
>>    echo current_filter() . ' is currently being run and is being passed '
>> .
>> func_num_args() . " arguments.\n";
>> }
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 8:51 PM, Stephen Rider <wp-hackers at striderweb.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> A while back I was trying to track the specific order of actions and
>>> filters.  (Working on a plugin).  I hacked the core files and added an
>>> error_log() to the beginning of the do_action filter, telling me which
>>> action/filter was just called.
>>>
>>> Worked like a champ -- answered my question in about 30 seconds of work
>>> rather than combing through the files tracing the execution order....
>>>
>>> Your project sounds like a very neat idea.  Mine was just quick -n-
>>> dirty.
>>>  :)
>>>
>>> You might also be interested in my deprecated calls plugin.
>>> <http://striderweb.com/nerdaphernalia/features/wp-log-deprecated-calls/>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Stephen
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 29, 2008, at 4:54 PM, Chris wrote:
>>>
>>>  I'm currently working building what I hope will be a very valuable tool
>>>
>>>
>>>> for many WordPress developers. The tentative name of it is WP Roadmap.
>>>>
>>>> I often get frustrated when I can't find exactly the right action or
>>>> filter hook to use for a specific task. I'll pick one hook, but it is
>>>> activated too late. I'll pick another, and of course, it happens way too
>>>> soon. I thought it would be great if I had a reliable means of tracking
>>>> what
>>>> happens in the execution of WordPress from start to finish to build a
>>>> map of
>>>> sorts....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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