AW: [wp-hackers] Update of non GPL-Plugins (was Plugin licenses)

Fri Oct 24 11:16:19 GMT 2008

The same actually applies to plugin developers who choose not to host  
their source code at wp.org for whatever reasons - and there are a lot  
of these. 2.7 increases the almost insistent drive to have them hosted  
there and your average user will believe what they see there is what  
is available. This disenfranchises users and those developers.  
Allowing an entry in the plugin list re-directed to the plugins home  
url would correct this situation and I cannot see that anyone would  
lose out by it.

Andy

On 24 Oct 2008, at 11:36AM, Philip Hetjens wrote:

> Because the focus has to be on the wordpress users?! And not on  
> these plugin
> authors.
>
> I don't want, that wp.org promotes these plugins, but in my opinion  
> wp.org
> has to support the update process of these plugins, too.
>
> Please have a look at the follow situation:
> 1. A Blogger sets up a new Blog (not a tec-guy!)
> 2. He founds a plugin that he loves, bought it, installs it
> 3. He founds some other plugins (GPL) installs them, too
>
> 2 month later:
> 4. There are several updates for all plugins and wordpress.
> 5. Because he uses wp2.7, he installs the new version with the auto- 
> update
> feature of wp
> 6. He recognizes that for some of his plugins new versions aviable  
> and he
> installs them, too.
> 7. He will not recognize, that there are also an update for the bought
> plugin. Because he will expect, that wp would show him this  
> information.
>
> Maybe the blog will be hacked through the bought plugin.
>
> How would anybody of you (or automattic) explain him, that wordpress  
> didn't
> show the version warning of his bought plugin, because he bought it?  
> Come on
> guys...
>
> Once again: I don't want, that wp.org promotes theses plugins. I  
> only want,
> that it helps updating, because the user will expect it.
>
> Regards,
> Philip
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
> [mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] Im Auftrag von  
> Joost de
> Valk
> Gesendet: Freitag, 24. Oktober 2008 12:11
> An: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> Betreff: Re: [wp-hackers] Update of non GPL-Plugins (was Plugin  
> licenses)
>
> Why would WordPress have to provide such services to plugin authors
> who do not share alike they do?
>
> Best,
> Joost
>
>
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> On 24 Oct 2008, at 11:57, Philip Hetjens wrote:
>
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> I would suggest, that there is a possibility to add (hidden) plugins
>> to the
>> wp.org-list for the auto-update feature of wordpress.
>>
>> I'm using a not-gpl plugin, and I have to check manually, if there
>> is an
>> update for that plugin. I don't like that.
>>
>> Philip
>>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
>> [mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] Im Auftrag von
>> Joost de
>> Valk
>> Gesendet: Freitag, 24. Oktober 2008 10:28
>> An: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
>> Betreff: Re: [wp-hackers] Plugin licenses
>>
>> Ok so basically, each and every plugin I encounter that says on it's
>> own page that it is not GPL compatible has to be removed? Start
>> prepping a team then, I'll be emailing some ;)
>>
>> Best,
>> Joost
>>
>>
>> On 24 Oct 2008, at 10:24, Viper007Bond wrote:
>>
>>> Whether a plugin has to be GPL or not is open for debate (I'm not a
>>> lawyer)
>>> and it's the same issue with premium themes.
>>>
>>> However if you want to host a plugin on WP.org, yes, it HAS to be  
>>> GPL
>>> compatible. It'll be removed from WP.org once someone who can do it
>>> sees
>>> this e-mail.
>>>
>>> http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/about/
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 1:20 AM, Joost de Valk <joost at yoast.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> as far as I understand it, all plugins on WordPress.org have to be
>>>> GPL -
>>>> compatible right?
>>>>
>>>> This plugin though:
>>>>
>>>> http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/featplug/
>>>>
>>>> Says in the license on the authors homepage, found here:
>>>>
>>>> http://featplug.huseyinuslu.net/#licence
>>>>
>>>> "Featplug is free for non-commercial use. For commercial usage and
>>>> redistribution with commercial packages please contact the author."
>>>>
>>>> That is not entirely GPL compatible...
>>>>
>>>> How does Automattic handle such cases?
>>>>
>>>> best,
>>>> Joost
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> http://yoast.com/
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