[wp-hackers] Splintered Menus in 2.7

[Viper007Bond]

The nice thing IMO about the "splintered" menus is that you can show and
hide exactly what you want to see and don't want to see since it remembers
your preference in a cookie.

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 9:17 PM, Stephen Rider <wp-hackers at striderweb.com>wrote:

>
> On Oct 1, 2008, at 4:14 PM, Jeremy Clarke wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Stephen Rider <wp-hackers at striderweb.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You're probably on wp-testers, but this falls right into a thread I
>>> started
>>> on that list:
>>> http://comox.textdrive.com/pipermail/wp-testers/2008-October/008927.html
>>>
>>>
>> That thread is 100% spot on in my opinion.
>>
>
> I guess I should have posted that on wp-hackers instead?
>
> I'm sorry to cross-post, but I think this is important, and I think it's
> the kind of thing that a lot of people are seeing.  I'm seeing a lot of
> comments that sort of glance around this, but nobody's quite struck at the
> core of the problem.
>
> Originally posted on wp-testers:
>
> ***
> It seems that the menus in 2.7 are becoming _extremely_ splintered.  Do we
> really need ELEVEN menus???
>
> By breaking things out so much, I think we're making the layout more
> "brittle" -- less open to changes or additions.  Write/Manage was a much
> stronger setup than Posts/Pages/Links/Media.  Especially as plugins add
> abilities to the system, authors are going to end up having to make more
> top-level menus because we're losing the more generalized topics such as
> "write" and "manage".  Either that or we're all going to have a thousand
> things all crammed under "tools" because that's going to be the only logical
> place left....
>
>        "Hmmm... I used the have the calendar page under 'Manage'.  Huh.  I
> guess.... Tools?"
>
>        "Well, is the 'top of every page' notice (from plugin x) a page or
> post?  Neither, really.  It used to be under Write.  Guess I have to stick
> it under Tools...?"
>
> That was two good examples just off the top of my head.  We're removing
> much of the flexibility of the interface by making Top Level menus so
> specialized.
>
> As much as I appreciate feedback, I think designing this via poll is going
> to give us the proverbial "horse made by a committee".  The geeks in charge
> (in which I, some tiny bit, include myself) need to have a longer view of
> things.
>
> We can't overlook this, guys, or we're going to end up having to do
> _another_ redesign two months from now when all these issues come out in
> real-world use.
> ***
>
> I think we should really rethink the re-menuing of 2.7  The 2.6 menus were
> very flexible and left a lot of room for any kind of expansion.
>
> Stephen
>
>
>
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> <http://striderweb.com/>
>
>
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