[wp-hackers] Copyright violations by plugin in the WordPress
plugin directory.
Andrew Ferguson
andrew at fergcorp.com
Fri Jun 27 22:16:37 GMT 2008
> It's my understanding that the GPL carries / implies NO requirement
> for attribution in derivative works (as Austin mentions), so I'm
> unclear as to what the allegation is as it relates to that.
All the code that de Valk writes is under his copyright purview. He still
owns it, but it letting other people use it.
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Jared Bangs <jared at pacific22.com> wrote:
> Interesting points from Austin. Just out of curiosity and for my own
> education, I'm interested in specific thoughts on the following
> aspects:
>
> 1. It's my understanding that the GPL carries / implies NO requirement
> for attribution in derivative works (as Austin mentions), so I'm
> unclear as to what the allegation is as it relates to that.
>
> 2. The closest thing that *might* apply would be the section that
> references ""keeping intact all the notices that refer to this
> License,", so that if the source contained an original reference to
> the license, written by the original author, subsequent copiers may be
> obliged to keep that. However, I just downloaded the robots-meta
> plugin, and can find no such references for anyone to "keep intact",
> so I think you're out of luck there as well.
>
> Granted, it's a crappy thing to do, and giving attribution would
> certainly be the *RIGHT* thing to do, and any considerate developer
> should do it, especially in a case of exact copying like this.
>
> The problem is that I don't think there's any technical violation of
> the GPL or anything else here; just a breach of etiquette. I think you
> might need a bit more than that before you start talking about
> take-down notices, etc.
>
> - Jared
>
> On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Austin Matzko <if.website at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Joost de Valk <joost at joostdevalk.nl>
> wrote:
> >> On Jun 27, 2008, at 10:58 PM, Alex King wrote:
> >>
> >>> http://opensource.org/licenses/gpl-2.0.php
> >>>
> >>> #1 & 2 under TERMS AND CONDITIONS FOR COPYING, DISTRIBUTION AND
> >>> MODIFICATION likely apply here.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Yup, think so too. (though IANAL) what's a man to do?
> >
> > I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, just (apparently) ignorant:
> > which are the lines that forbid 1) copying without attribution and 2)
> > not notifying the original developer?
> >
> > In the sections Alex King points to, I see requirements that the
> > derived work must maintain license compatibility with the GPL, which
> > this ripoff plugin has done explicitly.
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Dan Coulter <dan at dancoulter.com> wrote:
> >> The original author of the code holds the copyright, and the GPL states
> that
> >> you must maintain the copyright notices of the code that you use.
> >
> > The closest thing I can find to that is that one must "keep intact all
> > the notices that refer to this License," which isn't quite the same,
> > and is obeyed by the ripoff in invoking the GPL. Could you quote the
> > section you had in mind?
> >
> > It's also worth pointing out that there are no notices of copyright in
> > Joost de Valk's code available at
> > http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/robots-meta/, so even if your
> > interpretation is correct the ripoff has nothing to maintain.
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