[wp-hackers] WordPress Checking Own Pingbacks - Intended Behavior?

[Joefish]

For me personally, I use internal pingbacks/trackbacks as a way of
informing readers of related articles. In order to accomplish this, I
often have to go through a few awkward steps.

1. Deactivate Akismet.

2. Publish the new article with the link and trackback to the old article.

3. Reactivate Akismet

4. Retrieve my pingback from the spambox.


It's always seemed curious to me that my pingback is flagged as spam
when I have no spam plugin enabled, but there it is. This behavior is
very consistent, so I've never been sure of it's by design.

Just curious... how long as it been since anyone's received a
pingback/trackback that was not flagged as spam?



On 11/16/07, Viper007Bond <viper at viper007bond.com> wrote:
> Oh, right, I forgot there was a "spam" filter as to whether it was spam or
> not. I for some reason was thinking Akismet used the "new pingback" filter
> and then manually marked it as spam.
>
> Dur.
>
> On 11/16/07, Computer Guru <computerguru at neosmart.net> wrote:
> >
> > Can you further explain what you're trying to say?
> >
> > How would not filtering local pingbacks break plugins?
> > I'm not saying don't apply filters to local pingbacks, just don't apply
> > the
> > *spam* filter to local pingbacks.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com [mailto:wp-hackers-
> > > bounces at lists.automattic.com] On Behalf Of Viper007Bond
> > > Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 12:54 PM
> > > To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > > Subject: Re: [wp-hackers] WordPress Checking Own Pingbacks - Intended
> > > Behavior?
> > >
> > > I disagree. This is an Akismet issue.
> > >
> > > Your solution would be to avoid filtering local pingback/trackbacks.
> > > This is
> > > bad and would break some plugins and would provide no way to filter
> > > them at
> > > all.
> > >
> > > Akismet needs to be smart enough to ignore ****backs from a local
> > > source.
> > >
> > > On 11/16/07, Computer Guru <computerguru at neosmart.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > My feelings exactly.
> > > >
> > > > Here's the ticket: http://trac.wordpress.org/ticket/5362
> > > >
> > > > This isn't an Akismet issue; Akismet uses the API to check for
> > > pending
> > > > comments - intra-site pingbacks shouldn't be there in the first
> > > place.
> > > >
> > > > -CG
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com [mailto:wp-hackers-
> > > > > bounces at lists.automattic.com] On Behalf Of Callum Macdonald
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 8:16 PM
> > > > > To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: [wp-hackers] WordPress Checking Own Pingbacks -
> > > Intended
> > > > > Behavior?
> > > > >
> > > > > Interesting, I always considered that internal pingbacks shouldn't
> > > > > appear at all, but I suppose they could be useful in some way.
> > > > >
> > > > > I agree, if they're going to be posted, they should bypass spam
> > > > > checking. Will that need to be a change in Akismet or a change in
> > > WP?
> > > > > Is
> > > > > there a way to exclude something from spam checking? (I haven't
> > > looked
> > > > > into that part of the code).
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers - Callum.
> > > > >
> > > > > Computer Guru wrote:
> > > > > > I just posted an article on my blog (WP SVN), and was surprised
> > > to
> > > > > find a
> > > > > > link from that article - to a previous article I had written  on
> > > the
> > > > > same
> > > > > > blog - flagged as spam by Akismet.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > IMHO, internal pingbacks should be added directly, without *any*
> > > spam
> > > > > > checking..
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I was wondering if there was any previous discussion on the topic
> > > > > before I
> > > > > > bugged it?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -CG
> > > > > >
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