[wp-hackers] Call for Plugin Developer

[Ing. Moises Kirsch]

Hi,

I have something working for an image gallery... it is not exactly a plugin
but it is very easy to setup... All the administration is done trought zen
photo, a custom theme and a plugin to include the galleries.

You can take a look of it at joliwud.com

If you want the code I would be more than happy to share it.

Moi

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>    1. Re: Call for Plugin Developer (jason switzer)
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>    4. Re: Call for Plugin Developer (Sabin Iacob)
>    5. Re: Call for Plugin Developer (jason switzer)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 16:19:49 -0500
> From: "jason switzer" <jswitzer at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [wp-hackers] Call for Plugin Developer
> To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
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> I haven't looked at Inline Gallery in a while, so I'll try to check it
> out.
> F-Spot imports the images to ~/Photos and uses a sqlite database to store
> information about the collection. The example I posted in that bug report
> connects to the sqlite3 database and pulls the data from there instead.
> That
> example was meant to pull as much of the database over as possible with
> the
> least amount of work, so I just used the db file. F-Spot, to my knowledge
> will store the data in the files as XMP and EXIF comments. I haven't spent
> forever looking for documentation (found all that out by just sifting
> through the svn code) but f-spot.org is probably a good starting point.
>
> On an unrelated note: xfce is built on Gtk, so it can interact with gnome
> applications and do all things gnome. You shouldn't have any troubles
> running f-spot under gnome (or kde for that matter).
>
> On 3/18/07, Sabin Iacob <iacobs at m0n5t3r.info> wrote:
> >
> > jason switzer wrote:
> > > I was hoping I could find someone to develop a plugin that I'd like to
> > > see
> > > (it may not even have to be a plugin, just a page). I don't have the
> > > time to
> > > develop this myself, so I was looking for someone to do the ground
> work.
> >
> > lol; me too :)
> > do you know Inline Gallery?
> > (http://m0n5t3r.info/work/wordpress-plugins/inline-gallery/)
> >
> > > I've never been overly fond of the basic photography plugins available
> > > as it
> > > requires the web server to do the work. The user has to upload the
> > images
> > > and let the plugin do the grunt work. I serve my site from a
> > self-managed
> > > machine because it's easier to maintain. I also have a very powerful
> > > desktop
> > > machine that can handle my image processing needs. I want to use
> f-spot
> > > (more on this later) to manage my image library because it has many of
> > > the
> > > features I want (such as tagging, searching, metadata browser) in an
> > > interface that is no where near as clunky as most web based gallery
> > > engines.
> >
> > I agree; there are some things that are best done by desktop software,
> > and photo editing is one of them; I didn't know about f-spot (probably
> > because I don't like the idea of a bazillion of gnome services eating
> > memory - I already have Firefox and Thunderbird for that - hence I use
> > xfce). Is the documentation of the protocols it uses for publishing
> > available anywhere (in a shortened version, preferably :))?
> >
> > I also don't understand very well how f-spot stores metadata; if it
> > stores it in the photos, (as God and Adobe intended it to), then the
> > only thing to do is a web service that implements one of the protocols
> > used by f-spot for publishing, as Inline Gallery reads the said
> > metadata; oherwise, a few more function calls are required :)
> >
> > > If anyone out there has any interest in this, please drop me a line.
> >
> > line dropped :)
> >
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> >
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 16:49:55 -0500
> From: "jason switzer" <jswitzer at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [wp-hackers] Call for Plugin Developer
> To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
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> I looked at Inline Gallery and it seems like way too much work to have
> cleanly organized photo albums. I tried fGallery and that seemed to work
> the
> best, but it still suffers from the problem of having too much work done
> on
> the web server (uploading 2GB of pictures through their interface will
> always timeout or cause grief). The key feature that I want is something
> that is relatively quick (I run from an older machine) and has lightbox
> and
> individual tag support. The reason why I turned to desktop clients for
> this
> is because they almost always handle those features better. F-Spot is a
> young project and already can do tags and image manipulation that well
> enough.
>
> I would much rather have my desktop do the work than the web server and
> lightbox+tag support are the deal making features. I haven't found a
> plugin
> that can do that yet with the least amount of work involved (I don't want
> to
> spend countless hours tying together an organized photo album and I want
> to
> host it all myself).
>
> So the call for the plugin developer still stands. Any takers?
>
> -Jason
>
> On 3/18/07, jason switzer <jswitzer at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I haven't looked at Inline Gallery in a while, so I'll try to check it
> > out. F-Spot imports the images to ~/Photos and uses a sqlite database to
> > store information about the collection. The example I posted in that bug
> > report connects to the sqlite3 database and pulls the data from there
> > instead. That example was meant to pull as much of the database over as
> > possible with the least amount of work, so I just used the db file.
> F-Spot,
> > to my knowledge will store the data in the files as XMP and EXIF
> comments. I
> > haven't spent forever looking for documentation (found all that out by
> just
> > sifting through the svn code) but f-spot.org is probably a good starting
> > point.
> >
> > On an unrelated note: xfce is built on Gtk, so it can interact with
> gnome
> > applications and do all things gnome. You shouldn't have any troubles
> > running f-spot under gnome (or kde for that matter).
> >
> > On 3/18/07, Sabin Iacob <iacobs at m0n5t3r.info> wrote:
> > >
> > > jason switzer wrote:
> > > > I was hoping I could find someone to develop a plugin that I'd like
> to
> > > > see
> > > > (it may not even have to be a plugin, just a page). I don't have the
> > > > time to
> > > > develop this myself, so I was looking for someone to do the ground
> > > work.
> > >
> > > lol; me too :)
> > > do you know Inline Gallery?
> > > (http://m0n5t3r.info/work/wordpress-plugins/inline-gallery/)
> > >
> > > > I've never been overly fond of the basic photography plugins
> available
> > >
> > > > as it
> > > > requires the web server to do the work. The user has to upload the
> > > images
> > > > and let the plugin do the grunt work. I serve my site from a
> > > self-managed
> > > > machine because it's easier to maintain. I also have a very powerful
> > > > desktop
> > > > machine that can handle my image processing needs. I want to use
> > > f-spot
> > > > (more on this later) to manage my image library because it has many
> of
> > > > the
> > > > features I want (such as tagging, searching, metadata browser) in an
> > > > interface that is no where near as clunky as most web based gallery
> > > > engines.
> > >
> > > I agree; there are some things that are best done by desktop software,
> > > and photo editing is one of them; I didn't know about f-spot (probably
> > > because I don't like the idea of a bazillion of gnome services eating
> > > memory - I already have Firefox and Thunderbird for that - hence I use
> > > xfce). Is the documentation of the protocols it uses for publishing
> > > available anywhere (in a shortened version, preferably :))?
> > >
> > > I also don't understand very well how f-spot stores metadata; if it
> > > stores it in the photos, (as God and Adobe intended it to), then the
> > > only thing to do is a web service that implements one of the protocols
> > > used by f-spot for publishing, as Inline Gallery reads the said
> > > metadata; oherwise, a few more function calls are required :)
> > >
> > > > If anyone out there has any interest in this, please drop me a line.
> > >
> > > line dropped :)
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > wp-hackers mailing list
> > > wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > > http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-hackers
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 23:55:49 +0200
> From: Computer Guru <computerguru at neosmart.net>
> Subject: RE: [wp-hackers] Call for Plugin Developer
> To: <wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com>
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>
> This doesn't really apply to many people, does it?
>
> Most people will be running their own gallery in-tandem with WP on their
> server, and use something like WPG2 to connect WP to Gallery2 or maybe to
> Coppermine, etc.
>
> Or they use Flickr and the Flickr Plugin....
>
> With Gallery2 you can upload terabytes of data (I tried it :D) at one go!
>
> Computer Guru
> NeoSmart Technologies
> http://neosmart.net/blog/
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com [mailto:wp-hackers-
> > bounces at lists.automattic.com] On Behalf Of jason switzer
> > Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 11:50 PM
> > To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > Subject: Re: [wp-hackers] Call for Plugin Developer
> >
> > I looked at Inline Gallery and it seems like way too much work to have
> > cleanly organized photo albums. I tried fGallery and that seemed to
> > work the
> > best, but it still suffers from the problem of having too much work
> > done on
> > the web server (uploading 2GB of pictures through their interface will
> > always timeout or cause grief). The key feature that I want is
> > something
> > that is relatively quick (I run from an older machine) and has lightbox
> > and
> > individual tag support. The reason why I turned to desktop clients for
> > this
> > is because they almost always handle those features better. F-Spot is a
> > young project and already can do tags and image manipulation that well
> > enough.
> >
> > I would much rather have my desktop do the work than the web server and
> > lightbox+tag support are the deal making features. I haven't found a
> > plugin
> > that can do that yet with the least amount of work involved (I don't
> > want to
> > spend countless hours tying together an organized photo album and I
> > want to
> > host it all myself).
> >
> > So the call for the plugin developer still stands. Any takers?
> >
> > -Jason
> >
> > On 3/18/07, jason switzer <jswitzer at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I haven't looked at Inline Gallery in a while, so I'll try to check
> > it
> > > out. F-Spot imports the images to ~/Photos and uses a sqlite database
> > to
> > > store information about the collection. The example I posted in that
> > bug
> > > report connects to the sqlite3 database and pulls the data from there
> > > instead. That example was meant to pull as much of the database over
> > as
> > > possible with the least amount of work, so I just used the db file.
> > F-Spot,
> > > to my knowledge will store the data in the files as XMP and EXIF
> > comments. I
> > > haven't spent forever looking for documentation (found all that out
> > by just
> > > sifting through the svn code) but f-spot.org is probably a good
> > starting
> > > point.
> > >
> > > On an unrelated note: xfce is built on Gtk, so it can interact with
> > gnome
> > > applications and do all things gnome. You shouldn't have any troubles
> > > running f-spot under gnome (or kde for that matter).
> > >
> > > On 3/18/07, Sabin Iacob <iacobs at m0n5t3r.info> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > jason switzer wrote:
> > > > > I was hoping I could find someone to develop a plugin that I'd
> > like to
> > > > > see
> > > > > (it may not even have to be a plugin, just a page). I don't have
> > the
> > > > > time to
> > > > > develop this myself, so I was looking for someone to do the
> > ground
> > > > work.
> > > >
> > > > lol; me too :)
> > > > do you know Inline Gallery?
> > > > (http://m0n5t3r.info/work/wordpress-plugins/inline-gallery/)
> > > >
> > > > > I've never been overly fond of the basic photography plugins
> > available
> > > >
> > > > > as it
> > > > > requires the web server to do the work. The user has to upload
> > the
> > > > images
> > > > > and let the plugin do the grunt work. I serve my site from a
> > > > self-managed
> > > > > machine because it's easier to maintain. I also have a very
> > powerful
> > > > > desktop
> > > > > machine that can handle my image processing needs. I want to use
> > > > f-spot
> > > > > (more on this later) to manage my image library because it has
> > many of
> > > > > the
> > > > > features I want (such as tagging, searching, metadata browser) in
> > an
> > > > > interface that is no where near as clunky as most web based
> > gallery
> > > > > engines.
> > > >
> > > > I agree; there are some things that are best done by desktop
> > software,
> > > > and photo editing is one of them; I didn't know about f-spot
> > (probably
> > > > because I don't like the idea of a bazillion of gnome services
> > eating
> > > > memory - I already have Firefox and Thunderbird for that - hence I
> > use
> > > > xfce). Is the documentation of the protocols it uses for publishing
> > > > available anywhere (in a shortened version, preferably :))?
> > > >
> > > > I also don't understand very well how f-spot stores metadata; if it
> > > > stores it in the photos, (as God and Adobe intended it to), then
> > the
> > > > only thing to do is a web service that implements one of the
> > protocols
> > > > used by f-spot for publishing, as Inline Gallery reads the said
> > > > metadata; oherwise, a few more function calls are required :)
> > > >
> > > > > If anyone out there has any interest in this, please drop me a
> > line.
> > > >
> > > > line dropped :)
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > wp-hackers mailing list
> > > > wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > > > http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-hackers
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-hackers
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 23:59:16 +0200
> From: Sabin Iacob <iacobs at m0n5t3r.info>
> Subject: Re: [wp-hackers] Call for Plugin Developer
> To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
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>
> jason switzer wrote:
> > I haven't looked at Inline Gallery in a while, so I'll try to check it
> > out.
>
> heh, after looking at comments, it appears that it didn't work out too
> well last time you tried :P
>
> > F-Spot, to my knowledge
> > will store the data in the files as XMP and EXIF comments. I haven't
> > spent
> > forever looking for documentation (found all that out by just sifting
> > through the svn code) but f-spot.org is probably a good starting point.
>
> I am using the PHP JPEG metadata toolkit to handle XMP, and it pretty
> much does the job, but the code is hideous, most functions output html
> when they don't like something, the author felt an urge to reinvent UTF8
> escaping (all escaping, actually), so rewriting that is high on my
> priority list, if I only could find a few days of feeling like working
> to get it started...
>
> At f-spot.org they say _reading_ xmp and IPTC data is planned and is to
> be included really soon; they say nothing about writing, but I have to
> check the source code. What I was more interested in was the RPC
> protocols they use for publishing to flickr and the like; I'll check to
> see if the gallery remote service from gallery2 can be hacked to work
> stand-alone, or I would need to write the whole implementation from
> scratch.
>
> > On an unrelated note: xfce is built on Gtk, so it can interact with
> gnome
> > applications and do all things gnome. You shouldn't have any troubles
> > running f-spot under gnome (or kde for that matter).
>
> moria ~ # emerge -p f-spot
>
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [snip]
>
> Total: 32 packages (31 new, 1 in new slot), Size of downloads: 47,980 kB
>
> ... or maybe not.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 22:29:05 -0500
> From: "jason switzer" <jswitzer at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [wp-hackers] Call for Plugin Developer
> To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> On 3/18/07, Sabin Iacob <iacobs at m0n5t3r.info> wrote:
>
> > I am using the PHP JPEG metadata toolkit to handle XMP, and it pretty
> > much does the job, but the code is hideous, most functions output html
> > when they don't like something, the author felt an urge to reinvent UTF8
> > escaping (all escaping, actually), so rewriting that is high on my
> > priority list, if I only could find a few days of feeling like working
> > to get it started...
> >
> > At f-spot.org they say _reading_ xmp and IPTC data is planned and is to
> > be included really soon; they say nothing about writing, but I have to
> > check the source code. What I was more interested in was the RPC
> > protocols they use for publishing to flickr and the like; I'll check to
> > see if the gallery remote service from gallery2 can be hacked to work
> > stand-alone, or I would need to write the whole implementation from
> > scratch.
>
>
> Getting Gallery2 to incorporate with WP is cumbersome at best. Way too
> much
> work is required on my end to simply incorporate the galleries due to
> their
> decision to use smarty tags. Again, I want the web server to do as little
> as
> possible because I have a rather under-powered server at the moment and an
> over-powered desktop. I would much rather work with a solid desktop
> application as it would fit my needs better. Publishing under flickr would
> take forever with their 20MB a month limit.
>
> I'd rather not use Gallery or Coppermine as those do not fit my needs, so
> lets try to avoid discussing them further.
>
> I have not tested this feature set enough to verify this, however,
> according
> to the F-Spot website (http://f-spot.org/Features):
>
> Photos can be tagged for searching and grouping, and the timeline gives
> quick sense of temporal location, and quanity of photos taken. F-Spot can
> view and export EXIF and XMP metadata in your images.
>
> I know there is an option to tell F-Spot to export the metadata to the
> files, but I haven't really tested that yet (I assumed that's what they
> were
> referring to).
>
> The capabilities of F-Spot is not what I wanted to discuss. I am currently
> looking to fill a need by looking for a developer to help me work through
> this. This may not be the perfect solution, I would like the option of
> managing my photo collection through a desktop application. It would be
> nice
> if this (as of yet) non-existent module could be extended to be generic so
> that other desktop tools could export for this plugin. If anyone still
> wants
> to help, please speak up.
>
> > On an unrelated note: xfce is built on Gtk, so it can interact with
> gnome
> > > applications and do all things gnome. You shouldn't have any troubles
> > > running f-spot under gnome (or kde for that matter).
> >
> > moria ~ # emerge -p f-spot
> >
> > These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> >
> > Calculating dependencies... done!
> > [snip]
> >
> > Total: 32 packages (31 new, 1 in new slot), Size of downloads: 47,980 kB
> >
> > ... or maybe not.
>
>
>
> This is completely off topic but this doesn't really prove anything much.
> The dependencies of f-spot and the current state of your gentoo install
> aren't under question here. This really isn't the place to knock on other
> products. Use the right tool for the right job; if this is not the right
> tool for you, then move on to something else that is but don't waste my
> time
> by trying to convince me that f-spot has too many dependencies.
>
> This module could also be applied to other desktop applications such as
> gThumb or digikam.
>
>
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