[wp-hackers] do pages and posts make sense?

Markus Lutzer m.lutzer at gmx.de
Fri May 19 15:31:56 GMT 2006


Mark Jaquith schrieb:
> On May 19, 2006, at 3:45 AM, Markus Lutzer wrote:
> 
>> Solution 1: Pages are also created on a specific date; why not use this
>> date when they should be listed in a chronological order?
> 
> Because that is the primary difference between pages and posts.  Posts
> have a chronological flow.  Pages are chronologically agnostic.

Yes, as described in the wiki. But I'm talking about if this makes sense.

>> With respect to your opinion I think it would be an advantage for the
>> users to be free in choice. As I already wrote it would also make the
>> concept of WP more understandable. I guess many first-time-users are
>> thinking "what is the difference between Post and Page?
> 
> I've not seen this confusion.  When people hear "post" they think "blog
> post," i.e. chronological entries.  When they hear "page" they think
> "contact page" or "about page" i.e. non-chronological entries.

These terminology could remain by providing two categories "posts"
"pages" by default.

> Freedom of choice, for anything that is less than moderately popular, is
> accommodated though the plugin system.  WordPress 2.1 is gaining the
> ability to have arbitrary post types... so "categorized_page" could be
> created, and it could behave as you like.

Does any such plugin exist? This would be very helpful for me.

>> I would like to use categories for pages to have some categories in the
>> main navigation menu. The user should be able to continue to a specific
>> page by selecting in a sub-menu after she selected one category.
> 
> One way to do this would be via parent page containers.  If I were going
> to do it with categories, I'd probably make my own page2cat table to
> manage the associations without interfering with post2cat.
> 
> Bottom line is that this isn't something that the average user is going
> to want, and it'd just add coding, debugging, maintenance,
> documentation, and usage headaches if it were included in core.  I'd
> write it as a plugin for the WordPress 2.1 branch.  That way, you and
> the people who want this functionality can have it, but ordinary users
> (and developers) aren't burdened by a minority-use feature.
> 
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> Mark Jaquith
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