[wp-hackers] Help needed with two issues on established WP install

Vogel, Andrew (vogelap) VOGELAP at UCMAIL.UC.EDU
Tue Aug 22 01:49:21 GMT 2006 

AH! I was opening it in an editor. I opened the file in a browser and
found the boxes and will try what you suggested.

* The category_base was empty, so I left it alone.

* The permalink_structure had
"/index.php/%year%/%monthnum%/%day%/%postname%/" (no quotes). I changed
it to "/%year%/%monthnum%/%day%/%postname%/" (no quotes).

I clicked "Update Settings" at the bottom of the options.php page to
save my change.

I tried visiting my site BEFORE I went to Options->Permalinks and got a
WP-404 (instead of the non-WP 404 I'd been getting -- that's sorta
progress, I guess).

I went to Options->Permalinks and did NOT click "Update Permalink
Structure" -- I just visited the page. I visited my site again after
that and got a WP-404 (instead of the non-WP 404 I'd been getting).

I went back to Options->Permalink and clicked "Update Permalink
Structure" and visited my site. I got a WP-404 (instead of the non-WP
404 I'd been getting).

After those errors, and waiting for the next step, I still had to EMPTY
my WP database and RESTORE it from backup; changing the permalink back
to "/index.php/%year%/%monthnum%/%day%/%postname%/" (no quotes) didn't
work.

-drew
www.drewvogel.com

-----Original Message-----
From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
[mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On Behalf Of Jamie
Holly
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 4:55 PM
To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
Subject: RE: [wp-hackers] Help needed with two issues on established WP
install

I just did a fresh install of WP2.0.4 and they are both listed there.
With the fresh install, both are empty, but the options are there. Are
you sure your navigating to http://yourdomain.com/wp-admin/options.php ?
You need to load the page in a browser and not an editor. If you are
going to that as a URL and they aren't listed then you have a broken
installation of Wordpress.

Jamie Holly
http://www.intoxination.net

-----Original Message-----
From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
[mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On Behalf Of Vogel,
Andrew
(vogelap)
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 4:42 PM
To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
Subject: RE: [wp-hackers] Help needed with two issues on established WP
install

I downloaded and extracted WP2.04 from WordPress.ORG on my test machine
and there is no mention of either "category_base" or
"permalink_structure" in the options.php file located in /wp-admin/. I
searched options.php for "category" and "permalink" as well, again with
no matches.

Perhaps it's a different file you're thinking of?

-andrew vogel
Manager of Professional Programs
University of Cincinnati
College of Pharmacy 
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
> [mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On Behalf Of Jamie 
> Holly
> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 4:33 PM
> To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> Subject: RE: [wp-hackers] Help needed with two issues on established 
> WP install
> 
> They should be there. They are base options for Wordpress that 
> actually stores the permalink structure. These are the same values 
> that are shown on your permalinks page in the Category Base and Custom

> Structure fields accordingly. Even if you select one of the 
> pre-defined structures in the Wordpress options, it will still appear 
> in the Custom Structure field after you click update, as it then 
> updates that option in the database.
> 
> Jamie Holly
> http://www.intoxination.net
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
> [mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On Behalf Of Vogel, 
> Andrew
> (vogelap)
> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 4:14 PM
> To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> Subject: RE: [wp-hackers] Help needed with two issues on established 
> WP install
> 
> I went to /wp-admin/options.php, but searching for "category_base" and

> "permalink_structure" both came up with no matches... I've got several

> other files in /wp-admin/ that are options-*.php -- like discussion, 
> general, head, misc, permalink, reading, and writing -- could it be in

> one of those?
> 
> -andrew vogel
> Manager of Professional Programs
> University of Cincinnati
> College of Pharmacy
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
> > [mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On Behalf Of Jamie 
> > Holly
> > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 1:47 PM
> > To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > Subject: RE: [wp-hackers] Help needed with two issues on
> established
> > WP install
> > 
> > Last option I can think of. Go to /wp-admin/options.php. 
> Look for the
> > following:
> > 
> > category_base (delete anything in this box)
> > 
> > permalink_structure Paste the following into that box:
> > 
> > /%year%/%monthnum%/%day%/%postname%/
> > 
> > After that go to your options->permalinks page. You don't need to 
> > click the update button, as it will do it automatically for you.
> > 
> > This will set you back to the standard Date and name based
> permalinks. 
> > See if that is causing problems for you.
> > 
> > I tried your .htaccess in one of my virtual hosts and it
> worked fine. 
> > Of course you could have some plugin messing with things so
> you might
> > want to try and disable all of those and re-enable them one by one 
> > trying things out.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Jamie Holly
> > http://www.intoxination.net
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
> > [mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On Behalf
> Of Vogel,
> > Andrew
> > (vogelap)
> > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 1:29 PM
> > To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > Subject: RE: [wp-hackers] Help needed with two issues on
> established
> > WP install
> > 
> > I believe the problem existed prior to the inclusion of the
> WPGallery
> > stuff (even under previous versions of Fedora Core and
> WordPress, I've
> > always had "Almost Pretty" permalinks), but I will remove
> it and try
> > again just to be sure...
> > 
> > ... I removed it and got the 404 again. I don't believe it's the 
> > WPGallery stuff in .htaccess.
> > 
> > -andrew vogel
> > Manager of Professional Programs
> > University of Cincinnati
> > College of Pharmacy
> >  
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
> > > [mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On
> Behalf Of Jamie
> > > Holly
> > > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 1:22 PM
> > > To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > > Subject: RE: [wp-hackers] Help needed with two issues on
> > established
> > > WP install
> > > 
> > > Whenever you go to the permalinks page it does a
> > flush_rewrite rules,
> > > which basically rewrites the #begin Wordpress section in
> > .htaccess to
> > > what you have Wordpress permalinks set at. I noticed you
> were using
> > > other rewrites for gallery. Just a quick question - have
> you tired
> > > removing that section and seeing if that corrects it? I
> am not that
> > > great on rewrite rules so I could be overlooking something
> > in it that
> > > could be causing the problem.
> > > 
> > > Jamie Holly
> > > http://www.intoxination.net
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
> > > [mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On Behalf
> > Of Vogel,
> > > Andrew
> > > (vogelap)
> > > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 1:07 PM
> > > To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > > Subject: RE: [wp-hackers] Help needed with two issues on
> > established
> > > WP install
> > > 
> > > Hrm. That didn't work. Extremely perplexing and more than
> a little
> > > frustrating!
> > > 
> > > Here's what I tried:
> > > 
> > > * backup WP database
> > > * cd /var/www/html/
> > > * mv .htaccess hta.org
> > > * touch .htaccess
> > > * chown .htaccess to webserver
> > > * chmod 664 .htaccess
> > > * pico /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf:
> > > 
> > > [snip]
> > > DocumentRoot "/var/www/html"
> > > # First, we configure the "default" to be a very
> restrictive set of
> > > features.
> > > #
> > > <Directory />
> > >     Options FollowSymLinks
> > >     AllowOverride None
> > > </Directory>
> > > 
> > > # This should be changed to whatever you set DocumentRoot to.
> > > <Directory "/var/www/html">
> > >     Options Indexes FollowSymLinks Includes ExecCGI
> > >     AllowOverride None <------ this is the line to be changed
> > >     AcceptPathInfo On
> > >     Order allow,deny
> > >     Allow from all
> > > </Directory>
> > > [snip]
> > > 
> > > ...to...
> > > 
> > > [snip]
> > > DocumentRoot "/var/www/html"
> > > # First, we configure the "default" to be a very
> restrictive set of
> > > features.
> > > #
> > > <Directory />
> > >     Options FollowSymLinks
> > >     AllowOverride None
> > > </Directory>
> > > 
> > > # This should be changed to whatever you set DocumentRoot to.
> > > <Directory "/var/www/html">
> > >     Options Indexes FollowSymLinks Includes ExecCGI
> > >     AllowOverride All <------ this is what I changed the line to
> > >     AcceptPathInfo On
> > >     Order allow,deny
> > >     Allow from all
> > > </Directory>
> > > [snip]
> > > 
> > > * service httpd restart
> > > * pico /var/www/html/.htaccess -- verified that it had been
> > written to
> > > (it had)
> > > * opened a webbrowser and pointed it to my page,
> verifying that the
> > > URL link of an article changed from 
> > > "http://www.drewvogel.com/index.php/2006/08/18/system-strangen
> > ess/" to "http://www.drewvogel.com/2006/08/18/system->
> > strangeness/" (it had).
> > > * I clicked the link and -- KABOOM! -- non-WP 404.
> > > * I tried to roll-back -- 'mv hta.org .htaccess', re-add
> > "/index.php" 
> > > to the permalink line, and restart the server, but it
> > remained broken. 
> > > Once again, simply VISITING
> > > Options->Permalink is enough to 'break' it.
> > > 
> > > What does WP write when Options->Permalink is displayed? Is
> > there some
> > > way to compare before and after database entries to see
> > what's getting
> > > changed? I had to empty and restore my WP database to get it back 
> > > working.
> > > 
> > > -andrew vogel
> > > Manager of Professional Programs
> > > University of Cincinnati
> > > College of Pharmacy
> > >  
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
> > > > [mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On
> > Behalf Of Jamie
> > > > Holly
> > > > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 12:05 PM
> > > > To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > > > Subject: RE: [wp-hackers] Help needed with two issues on
> > > established
> > > > WP install
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > AllowOverride All
> > > > 
> > > > That will fix it.
> > > > 
> > > > Jamie Holly
> > > > http://www.intoxination.net
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
> > > > [mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On
> > Behalf Of Handy
> > > > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 12:04 PM
> > > > To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [wp-hackers] Help needed with two issues on
> > > established
> > > > WP install
> > > > 
> > > > I believe so, yes.  Unfortunately, not at a place where
> > > it's easy to
> > > > pop onto my server and check.
> > > > 
> > > > On 8/21/06, Vogel, Andrew (vogelap)
> <VOGELAP at ucmail.uc.edu> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > You may not be "Captain Obvious"...
> > > > >
> > > > > <Directory />
> > > > >     Options FollowSymLinks
> > > > >     AllowOverride None
> > > > > </Directory>
> > > > >
> > > > > What SHOULD it be? "All"?
> > > > >
> > > > > -andrew vogel
> > > > > Manager of Professional Programs University of Cincinnati 
> > > > > College of Pharmacy
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
> > > > > > [mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On
> > > > Behalf Of Handy
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 11:38 AM
> > > > > > To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [wp-hackers] Help needed with two issues on
> > > > established
> > > > > > WP install
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 8/21/06, Vogel, Andrew (vogelap)
> > > <VOGELAP at ucmail.uc.edu> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > <snip>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2. I've got my Permalinks set to Custom ("Almost
> > Pretty") and
> > > > > > > "/index.php/%year%/%monthnum%/%day%/%postname%/". The goal
> > > > > > is to get
> > > > > > > rid of the "/index.php" from my permalinks to make them
> > > > > > "Pretty". As
> > > > > > > long as I do not visit Options->Permalinks, my site
> > > > > > functions as expected.
> > > > > > > However, if I VISIT Options->Permalinks, my site's
> > > > permalinks stop
> > > > > > > functioning unless I set them to Default (I don't
> even have
> > > > > > to click
> > > > > > > "Update Permalinks Settings"; simply visiting the
> > > > > > Options->Permalinks
> > > > > > > page breaks permalinks), which breaks internal links in my
> > > > > > site. This
> > > > > > > is 100% reproducible. The .htaccess file is 664 and
> > > > > > writable by the server.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > </snip>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm willing to be all wet here with the "Captain Obvious"
> > > > > > post... but FC5 has AllowOverrides off by default in
> > the apache
> > > > > > configs.  Have you specifically re-enabled it?
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