[theme-reviewers] Why can't theme authors have a second version of a theme?

Sat Sep 27 22:47:11 UTC 2014

Brother accept what was provided and let us enjoy the weekend. Roman
numerals are still numbers :)

Are we cool, no more discussing?

On Saturday, September 27, 2014, Trent Lapinski <trent at cyberchimps.com>
wrote:

> What's the difference? It's still a violation of this rule.
>
> --Trent Lapinski
> CEO of CyberChimps.com
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 27, 2014, at 3:31 PM, Srikanth Koneru <tskk79 at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tskk79 at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
> It is a year name, not a version of "twenty" theme
>
> On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 4:00 AM, Trent Lapinski <trent at cyberchimps.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','trent at cyberchimps.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Is that officially the only solution? Calling it "Responsive Mobile" - I
>> didn't get a confirmation?
>>
>> Whether the review was started or not is irrelevant. We are not being
>> allowed to move forward with the name. That is true, and not disinformation.
>>
>> Also, all of the default WordPress themes spell out numbers in their
>> name. Does this mean Twenty Fifteen won't be allowed now due to this rule?
>>
>> -Trent
>> CEO CyberChimps Inc.
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Sep 27, 2014, at 3:08 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','emil at uzelac.me');>> wrote:
>>
>> Review never started and you were informed ahead of time. Please stop
>> sending disinformation. You agreed on Responsive Mobile. Where is the
>> problem now?
>>
>> On Saturday, September 27, 2014, Trent Lapinski <trent at cyberchimps.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','trent at cyberchimps.com');>> wrote:
>>
>>> Actually they are absolutely are refusing to allow us to use the name
>>> Responsive II. That's how this all got started. They stopped our review and
>>> told us we can't use the name.
>>>
>>> This means if you get a popular theme, and want to add new features that
>>> will break the previous generations websites you cannot release a follow up
>>> theme under the same brand. Your only options are to break millions of
>>> websites, or completely rebrand according to this rule.
>>>
>>> That's why this debate has lasted nearly 24 hours now. The admins have
>>> decided I cannot use my own name for my theme with a version number in the
>>> name.
>>>
>>> --Trent Lapinski
>>> CEO of CyberChimps.com
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Sep 27, 2014, at 2:37 PM, Srikanth Koneru <tskk79 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> God, did we say don't name it Responsive II ?
>>> No we did not.
>>>
>>> Admins only said don't submit it here as Responsive II
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 3:05 AM, Trent Lapinski <trent at cyberchimps.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wrong.
>>>>
>>>> I've heard from many theme authors who have tried and been rejected
>>>> before. This rules been enforced for some time now apparently and the only
>>>> reason this isn't common practice is because it hasn't been allowed.
>>>>
>>>> Apple, Samsung, Microsoft, and dozens of Fortune 500 companies use
>>>> names and numbers for products. Salesforce's latest development platform is
>>>> called Salesforce1.
>>>>
>>>> This is normal in the tech industry.
>>>>
>>>> --Trent Lapinski
>>>> CEO of CyberChimps.com
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 27, 2014, at 2:06 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Have you realized that you are the only one that does this?
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Trent Lapinski <trent at cyberchimps.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Cais,
>>>>>
>>>>> I came to this list for help, all I received was pointless bureaucracy.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is wrong to prevent theme authors from using their own brand names
>>>>> for multiple products. This rule only serves to limit the freedoms of theme
>>>>> authors, which was never its intention. The purpose of this rule was to
>>>>> protect theme authors from having their names and brands from being stolen,
>>>>> not to prevent authors from using their own names and brands.
>>>>>
>>>>> Did I get frustrated? Absolutely, TRT does not have the authority or
>>>>> the right to limit the freedoms of an open source community, and force
>>>>> theme authors to rebrand and rename their established product lines, and
>>>>> force thousands of developers to follow rules that no free open market
>>>>> would ever enact. You guys are over reaching your authority, and literally
>>>>> becoming the brand and naming police of the WordPress community. It is
>>>>> silly, offensive, and downright scary that you guys have all literally
>>>>> agreed to limit our rights.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am trying to find a resolution to this problem without having my
>>>>> rights, and the rights of my fellow theme authors taken away by people who
>>>>> have contributed just as much as I have to this community. I have every
>>>>> right to be here, and I don't need to be an admin to have a say, nor do I
>>>>> need to be an admin to defend myself and others from pointless bureaucracy
>>>>> and unneeded politics.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Trent
>>>>> CEO CyberChimps Inc.
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 27, 2014, at 11:06 AM, Edward Caissie <edward.caissie at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Trent Lapinski <trent at cyberchimps.com
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Condescending yes, ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for making your position and opinion of the WordPress Theme
>>>>> Reviewers and Administrators that much more obvious.
>>>>>
>>>>> Feel free to carry on the conversation. I have already expressed my
>>>>> opinion and your admission really doesn't give me much reason to reconsider
>>>>> what I have already written about theme names.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Edward Caissie
>>>>> aka Cais.
>>>>>
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