[theme-reviewers] GPL-Compatibility
Stephen Cui
scui2005 at gmail.com
Thu Jun 5 13:05:11 UTC 2014
Thanks - this is the guidelines I want to clarify.
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net> wrote:
> Explicit declaration has been required for quite some time. The latest
> Guidelines revisions now require that explicit declaration to be included
> in the Theme readme file, or a license file.
>
> With explicit declaration, there is not need for reviewers to verify every
> single source, as long as you recognize and understand the terms of the
> license being declared.
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Stephen Cui <scui2005 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I understand the screenshots are already policed and GPL applies to
>> whole.theme. This is very clear. The question are:
>>
>> - if we require theme authors to explicitly declare the source and
>> licence for every single image (including images used in screenshot).
>> - if the reviewer has to verify every single source.
>>
>> If this is the case, many (if not most) themes fail this criteria.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The Guidelines already state "100% GPL" for *everything* bundled with
>>> the Theme. I'm not sure how much clearer or more explicit they can be?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 8:33 AM, rose tail <metallicarosetail at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes exactly setting the new guideline is the best way for reviewer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Stephen Cui <scui2005 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Are we going to police the screenshot? I feel that we may went too far
>>>>> for reviewer. If this is the case, we will have to set the guideline for
>>>>> reviewers.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Srikanth Koneru <tskk79 at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> so many themes were approved with unsplash and pixabay images, have
>>>>>> to watch the #1 queue carefully
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pixabay appears to be a site where copyright holders upload their
>>>>>>> images, and upon upload, Pixabay says, "by uploading, you agree to
>>>>>>> distribute your pictures under the terms we specify".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, if the images are Public Domain outside of/prior to uploading to
>>>>>>> Pixabay, then they remain Public Domain. But if the images are only CC0
>>>>>>> because of the act of uploading to Pixabay, then they would be under the
>>>>>>> *actual* terms of the site. And those *actual* terms impose
>>>>>>> non-GPL-compatible restrictions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So again: you have to go back to the license specified by the
>>>>>>> copyright holder.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Srikanth Koneru <tskk79 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But sometime back, you said the CC0 mentioned on the image
>>>>>>>> overrides that and you okayed pixabay, so that is now null and void?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 5:21 PM, rose tail <
>>>>>>>> metallicarosetail at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot for you suggestion
>>>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net
>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Looking at the site's license terms:
>>>>>>>>>> http://pixabay.com/en/service/terms/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't think the images are licensed compatibly with GPL. For
>>>>>>>>>> example:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - *You may not use Images for* pornographic, unlawful or
>>>>>>>>>> other immoral purposes, or in a way that can give a bad name to depicted
>>>>>>>>>> persons, or to imply endorsement of products and services by identifiable
>>>>>>>>>> persons, brands, organisations, etc.
>>>>>>>>>> - You are not allowed to mass download Images with an
>>>>>>>>>> application, *or reuse a big part of the Images for
>>>>>>>>>> redistribution on a similar Website*.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Neither of these terms is GPL-compatible.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 7:39 AM, Chip Bennett <
>>>>>>>>>> chip at chipbennett.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What is the license of the specific image?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you don't know, then you can't use it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 7:38 AM, rose tail <
>>>>>>>>>>> metallicarosetail at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can image be used from pixabay or not ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Bryan Hadaway <
>>>>>>>>>>>> bhadaway at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, that's always a possibility and it absolutely
>>>>>>>>>>>>> happens.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Someone might rip off someone else's work or otherwise
>>>>>>>>>>>>> infringe and upload or re-release something under their claim of ownership
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or a new license, then anyone else that uses that work or even promotes it,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> shares it with others, ends up inadvertently and ignorantly violating the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> original owner's rights.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> All we can do is navigate the sometimes tricky world of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> trademark and copyright law and respect other's rights as much as we can,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the information we have, be kind to one another, in other words, be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mature adults and just use our common sense.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then, if one day you get a legitimate cease and desist email
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (which sometimes is just as unfortunate for the person that has to send out
>>>>>>>>>>>>> such notices in the first place as it is for you to receive them), there's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> no reason to be scared or get defensive, you should simply apologize, let
>>>>>>>>>>>>> them know that you had no idea you were violating their rights and work to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickly and amicably resolve the issue. I'd say 9/10 times, that's all
>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, some people/companies might, on rare occasion,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> try to seek monetary damages or to censor others whether you knew you were
>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing anything wrong or not. That's partly what
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.chillingeffects.org/ is about covering.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's kind of a hope for the best, prepare for the worst type
>>>>>>>>>>>>> situation. You can hope that everyone always does the right thing, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>> prepare for the fact that they most inevitably won't.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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