[theme-reviewers] Payment Option for Theme Reviews

[Stephen Cui]

@emil

It is simply because the tickets approved by me took too long to go live. Since they are live today, I will pick up some tickets next week :-)

IMO TRT should profile authors and reviewer based on track records. This is not about giving preference or priority. It helps everyone and queue.

Stephen

> On Jul 31, 2014, at 3:43 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:
> 
> @Stephen,
> 
> If I may, what makes you say that your reviews are not valuable or that you are not trusted and also where are you getting with "I believe I am quiet experienced on theme review"? I did not understand the last part sorry.
> 
> @Srikanth, that would never be approved by foundation and not really an option.
> 
> P.S. We are off-topic as usual :(
> P.P.S. https://themes.trac.wordpress.org/ 108 new tickets are waiting for review.
> 
> Thanks,
> Emil
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Srikanth Koneru <tskk79 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> A doing it all wrong theme for better training of new reviewers is needed, then we will have fully vetted themes waiting to be live, that will weed out joy riders too :)
>> 
>> But the question is, is my suggestion still pay for play even tough I am not getting the play? Can't it be considered a donation?
>> 
>> 
>>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 12:45 AM, Stephen Cui <scui2005 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Pay-to-play is definitely not an option. But how can we improve the process? I was an active reviewer before the incentive starts and started again after the incentive ends. I stopped again as I feel that my contribution is not valued. If my review cannot be trusted, why am I even reviewing any themes? 
>>> 
>>> I believe I am quiet experienced on theme review. I know there are reviewers that are new and some reviews are low-quality. The problem is we need to wait 3-4 weeks for an admin to point out the problem. This adds frustration for everyone.
>>> 
>>> Something has to be done. Many of us are tried to make suggestions. Two days ago, I suggested Experience Review option. I also suggested if WP Foundation can hire a full-time Admin. If the option is not possible, let us find other option. I wish we can have more open discussion about the solution.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Stephen
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Otto <otto at ottodestruct.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Srikanth Koneru <tskk79 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> But the bottle neck is admin time availability.
>>>> 
>>>> I grant you that admin time is a problem, but additionally, the fact that admins have to second guess and redo most reviews is also kind of a problem.
>>>> 
>>>> I just went and looked at four "approved" themes in the admin queue. Two of them had issues that I noticed immediately as being problems. Big-code-issues that prevent me from going live with them; not just look and feel type things. The other two I marked live. Now, small sample, I grant you, but if this holds true throughout this queue, then that's about 40 themes I'll have to return-to-sender instead of marking live. 
>>>> 
>>>> I can see why the current admins would find this a bit frustrating.
>>>> 
>>>> What can help make it such that reviewers are actually doing the entire review before approving themes? Or is there a focus problem? In the cases I've seen, it's been functionality issues that are the stoppers at this stage, not necessarily look-and-feel issues. Most reviews I've been reading over the last 10 minutes pointed out menu problems, CSS problems, things like the front-page functionality not working properly, but missed (to me) big obvious ones like saving defaults to the database or requiring the use of a plugin. This is the sort of things the admins find and I grant you that you have to look at the code for them, but I don't think the admins should need to be second-reviewing everybody's reviews here, but that is what is happening and why it takes so long. 
>>>> 
>>>> Should we be assigning reviewers in pairs? Two reviewers per ticket? I dunno.
>>>> 
>>>> -Otto
>>>> 
>>>> 
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