[theme-reviewers] Payment Option for Theme Reviews

Thu Jul 31 19:52:41 UTC 2014

> Paying people for their time is perfectly acceptable as a non-profit organization, and the right thing to do in this case. All these restrictions, rules, and limitations being handed down from above are feeling rather big brotherish, illogical, and seem to hurting more than they help. 

=> 100% agree. Honestly, I don’t get it why it is an issue when people actually want to pay other people for the time and effort. This is a win-win and would make the whole process, in my opinion, much more professional. At the moment it seems that a lot of unexperienced reviewers are being motivated on WordCamps around the world. They review a few themes during the contribution day and then it’s over (in most cases).

Cheers,
Michael

Am 31.07.2014 um 21:43 schrieb Trent Lapinski <trent at cyberchimps.com>:

> Why not add more admins?
> 
> I know at least one, possibly two people with enough experience and who would be willing.
> 
> As a theme shop who has donated thousands of dollars to the WordPress Foundation, contributed theme reviews for 3 years, I fail to see why the WordPress Foundation can put on WordCamps around the world, but can't add a few more admins who will contribute for free. 
> 
> It's even sillier they refuse to pay the admins for their time, when clearly they could if they wanted to. This is merely a policy decision by the higher ups not to pay people, we could easily pool the donations together from the community. I would gladly contribute.
> 
> Paying people for their time is perfectly acceptable as a non-profit organization, and the right thing to do in this case. All these restrictions, rules, and limitations being handed down from above are feeling rather big brotherish, illogical, and seem to hurting more than they help. 
> 
> Why we don't have a point of contact or community manager is also very unprofessional. It doesn't seem fair that everything seems to get put on Otto's shoulders.
> 
> Something's gotta give soon or things are just going to get worse. When is the TRT and theme authors going to be taken seriously like plugin developers?
> 
> --Trent Lapinski
> CyberChimps.com
> 
> On Jul 31, 2014, at 12:20 PM, Srikanth Koneru <tskk79 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> A doing it all wrong theme for better training of new reviewers is needed, then we will have fully vetted themes waiting to be live, that will weed out joy riders too :)
>> 
>> But the question is, is my suggestion still pay for play even tough I am not getting the play? Can't it be considered a donation?
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 12:45 AM, Stephen Cui <scui2005 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Pay-to-play is definitely not an option. But how can we improve the process? I was an active reviewer before the incentive starts and started again after the incentive ends. I stopped again as I feel that my contribution is not valued. If my review cannot be trusted, why am I even reviewing any themes? 
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>> I believe I am quiet experienced on theme review. I know there are reviewers that are new and some reviews are low-quality. The problem is we need to wait 3-4 weeks for an admin to point out the problem. This adds frustration for everyone.
>> 
>> Something has to be done. Many of us are tried to make suggestions. Two days ago, I suggested Experience Review option. I also suggested if WP Foundation can hire a full-time Admin. If the option is not possible, let us find other option. I wish we can have more open discussion about the solution.
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>> Regards
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>> Stephen
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>> 
>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Otto <otto at ottodestruct.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Srikanth Koneru <tskk79 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> But the bottle neck is admin time availability.
>> 
>> I grant you that admin time is a problem, but additionally, the fact that admins have to second guess and redo most reviews is also kind of a problem.
>> 
>> I just went and looked at four "approved" themes in the admin queue. Two of them had issues that I noticed immediately as being problems. Big-code-issues that prevent me from going live with them; not just look and feel type things. The other two I marked live. Now, small sample, I grant you, but if this holds true throughout this queue, then that's about 40 themes I'll have to return-to-sender instead of marking live. 
>> 
>> I can see why the current admins would find this a bit frustrating.
>> 
>> What can help make it such that reviewers are actually doing the entire review before approving themes? Or is there a focus problem? In the cases I've seen, it's been functionality issues that are the stoppers at this stage, not necessarily look-and-feel issues. Most reviews I've been reading over the last 10 minutes pointed out menu problems, CSS problems, things like the front-page functionality not working properly, but missed (to me) big obvious ones like saving defaults to the database or requiring the use of a plugin. This is the sort of things the admins find and I grant you that you have to look at the code for them, but I don't think the admins should need to be second-reviewing everybody's reviews here, but that is what is happening and why it takes so long. 
>> 
>> Should we be assigning reviewers in pairs? Two reviewers per ticket? I dunno.
>> 
>> -Otto
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