[theme-reviewers] Contribution days
Emil Uzelac
emil at uzelac.me
Mon Jul 14 18:05:03 UTC 2014
No idea is crazy! Anything we can do to improve is good and appreciated.
Time is not always on our side, but if it was "I" would make a short video
review followed by slide presentation or equivalent.
Video would include the basic steps and what to look for while doing a
review.
This can also be just in a written form as well :)
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Tammie Lister <karmatosed at gmail.com>
wrote:
> To summarise we have a few ways then for a contribution day to go:
> - One theme that is reviewed by group together: This has issue of a large
> group. At Manchester we had over 11 people - that's too big a group for one
> contributor to lead through a review without people loosing interest. This
> also relies on someone being able to assign to themselves.
> - A small selection of themes (maybe earlier defined) : This poses issue
> of how many, prior knowledge.
> - Everyone gets one and does review: This has a higher fail rate and could
> impact negatively on the submitter.
>
> Whatever we do more work for admins has to stop. I'm very against adding
> to your already filled plates.
>
> What about the idea of a theme_doing_it_wrong that could be used to train
> people on? Think of it as a test everyone has to pass. I know this would
> take effort to create, but could that be worth it? Could this be a way to
> get people involved? Or is this a crazy idea that should be dropped?
>
> Tammie Lister
>
> On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:
>
>> That's a tough one, not really sure how we would scale :)
>>
>> Main reason, person would need to have an admin privileges, know what
>> he/she is doing and to be trusted as well.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Tammie Lister <karmatosed at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That rocks Emil, and I absolutely appreciate all the effort put in by
>>> admins to help assign. This happened for us at WordCamp Manchester also, I
>>> think we woke Chip up a long list of emails :) Your workloads as admins are
>>> huge though, I'd love to find a way to make this easier on you and the new
>>> reviewers.
>>>
>>> However, that doesn't solve the times when people are busy. Dealing camp
>>> by camp isn't a great way for scalability. People rightly have lives
>>> outside of theme reviews and I feel relying on anyone being around isn't
>>> great or a good solid long term plan. It's unfair on anyone. I'd love to
>>> see every contribution day (a girl can dream) have a group for Theme
>>> Review. At that scale, it would be hard to have someone be there all the
>>> time.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tammie Lister
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 5:26 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I will be in San Francisco for 5 days, including the Contribution Days.
>>>> Tickets can be assigned on the spot if needed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Srikanth Koneru <tskk79 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A theme that does everything wrong as a training tool, for new
>>>>> reviewers to cut their teeth, they can practice on it and when ready can
>>>>> start reviewing themes. I think that will greatly reduce admin effort in
>>>>> auditing approved themes.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 9:40 PM, Tammie Lister <karmatosed at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I wanted to take a little moment to start up a discussion on whether
>>>>>> there is anything we can do to make contribution days run a little smoother
>>>>>> for theme reviews.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Currently, we have a request post that people post to in order to get
>>>>>> a review. Once assigned, they can do the review. This works well if time
>>>>>> isn’t poor, often at contribution days we just want to strike while the
>>>>>> iron is hot and get people contributing. Our current method also puts extra
>>>>>> weight on admins, who already are doing a great amount of work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Having people post also poses issues when people may not have posted
>>>>>> on the blog. They then have to wait to be approved as flagged as potential
>>>>>> spam before they can even post. This is a double hurdle.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I absolutely understand why we need to have a process and why we
>>>>>> can’t just let anyone review anything without easing them in. However, I do
>>>>>> wonder what could be done to improve this process and encourage more people
>>>>>> to contribute. We need reviewers and contribution days are a great place to
>>>>>> recruit :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If one of us that can assign our own reviews, is at a contribution
>>>>>> day we can assign to ourselves. But, that limits it again. Ideally nobody
>>>>>> would need to be there that has any level.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don’t claim to have the answers, but I have a few possibilities:
>>>>>> 1. Better documentation on how to do your first review. I think Chip,
>>>>>> you were going to refresh your great post about that - time willing of
>>>>>> course.
>>>>>> 2. A ‘how to run a theme review section at contribution day’ section.
>>>>>> 3. Maybe a pool of past themes we can give new reviewers to ‘cut
>>>>>> their teeth’? This could also even be a test theme. Maybe to level the
>>>>>> playing field one that covers the basics you should know. Possibly a cool
>>>>>> sub project? A doing_it_wrong theme.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’m sure I am missing some great ideas, hence interested what people
>>>>>> think. I’d love to find ways we can make this process better and get more
>>>>>> contributors as a result.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do people think?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tammie Lister
>>>>>>
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