[theme-reviewers] Option to create child theme from theme option

[emin ozlem]

I didnt mean to get the two of them mixed, you mentioned the custom query
part, so i just wanted to make it clear .

*Why? Because the *user* is defining the query/relationship/manner of
> display of the content.*
>

What I understand from that is; the user should not be able to define the
arbitrary query. Am I right ? Which one is allowed to define the query
exactly, the user or the theme ?

PS: I am not asking these to prolong the discussion; it's either allowed or
not. I just want to understand the logic behind it, in order to apply it to
other areas.



2014/1/22 Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net>

> You're conflating two different things here - the second being completely
> different from the first - and then trying to apply what I said about the
> first to the second. That doesn't work.
>
> Of *course* a Theme can have appropriate uses of custom queries. But those
> custom queries would be known, not arbitrary: querying a certain category
> term, or post_format term, or whatever, to display in some known,
> Theme-defined way. Themes do that all the time, and doing so is perfectly
> fine.
>
> That's entirely different from what you were talking about before: custom
> page template that allows the user to define *arbitrary* custom queries,
> displayed in an *arbitrary* way. That's Plugin territory. Why? Because the
> *user* is defining the query/relationship/manner of display of the content.
> The output of that effort is something that a user would reasonably want to
> retain when switching Themes (and nothing about that output is in any way
> specific to the Theme).
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 4:56 PM, emin ozlem <eminozlem at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think "custom page template" could be out of option but "custom query"
>> should definitely not qualify as PT. For example if you have a slider,
>> widget or anything like that in your theme you'd definitely want to use a
>> custom query to display certain posts in there.
>> For example your theme has a custom "portfolio" styled display, and you'd
>> want to show posts from "portfolio" category, or a selected category, cant
>> you do that ? I havent checked all the themes, but i am pretty sure there
>> must be themes doing that kind of thing.
>>
>> I dont know why are theme guidelines are so restrictive. I get the ones
>> that involve "added functionality","modifiyng / adding content" ; since
>> those would cause the loss off those functionalities or contents and would
>> cripple number of plugins. But as for "displaying" of existing content
>> differently, it should be more open.
>>
>>
>> 2014/1/21 Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net>
>>
>>> A custom page/custom query creator is *definitely* Plugin territory.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 3:47 PM, emin ozlem <eminozlem at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  I think this shouldnt fall into plugin territory since there would be
>>>> no content loss upon deactiivation. If we are to exclude every
>>>> "functionality" from themes, what are the purpose of themes, just picking
>>>> colors ?
>>>>
>>>> For example I was preparing a "custom page creator", you would choose
>>>> from select boxes as such;
>>>> I want to create a page that displays "posts | custom_p_type" from
>>>> "cat1-cat2" ordered by"ID | date" etc... you get the idea.
>>>>
>>>> Creating page-templates are a pain for the average user. This
>>>> "functionality" i am planning not only makes it easier; but also prevents
>>>> data loss. Because the creator wont create new page-* files but instead it
>>>> will use the default page.php file and get the query parameters from an
>>>> option.
>>>>
>>>> Would that too also fall into plugin territory ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2014/1/21 Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me>
>>>>
>>>>> This seems like plugin-territory to me.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Faishal Saiyed <
>>>>> saiyedfaishal at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am reviewing one theme and they give one section call *"One-Click
>>>>>> Child Themes" *in theme option. using that setting i can create
>>>>>> child theme by providing name.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will create that name directory in wp-content theme directory and
>>>>>> create 3 files
>>>>>> 1. style.css
>>>>>> 2. screenshoot.png
>>>>>> 3. function.php
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I feel like it is not part of presentation , it is a part of
>>>>>> functionality.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But i want other theme-reviewers suggestion on same.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Faishal Saiyed
>>>>>> Web: about.me <http://about.me/faishal>
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