[theme-reviewers] Tracking for themes&plugins

[Edward Caissie]

I am in agreement with Emil and Chip on disliking data-tracking in most any
form ... and on the subject of WordPress SEO providing an opt-in to allow
tracking, well if I wasn't "required" to "test" against it I would have
immediately removed it (destroyed the bits if possible) and forever more
never install it again, but that's just my personal opinion.

As the other admins have already noted, we have allowed for opt-in fully
disclosed off by default features to be included with themes such as
something like data tracking as is the case here.

Edward Caissie
aka Cais.


On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:

> @Ulrich that might be, however they're almost never accurate.
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Codeinwp <support at codeinwp.com> wrote:
>
>> It's very interesting to have an idea regarding the opt-in percentage,
>> Yoast for example is asking this with a wordpress popup after the plugin is
>> activated, their message looks well, the plugin is free, so you know as a
>> user you may think that you want to help .
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 11:30 PM, Ulrich Pogson <grapplerulrich at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> @Emil Do you have reports from users that is so or is it just
>>> experience?
>>>
>>> I know that Yoast SEO and EDD have been able to get data successfully.
>>>
>>> It is interesting that that three people feel strongly against it. I
>>> wonder what is so wrong.
>>> On 7 Feb 2014 23:25, "Emil Uzelac" <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Most users will not opt-in, therefore you will not have enough of
>>>> feedback anyways.
>>>> Here's what you can try: http://www.usertesting.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Codeinwp <support at codeinwp.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> @Ulrich I don't anything in mind now I am just trying to understand
>>>>> what is acceptable and what is the best way of doing it.
>>>>>
>>>>> It would be for example very interesting if I have a theme to know
>>>>> which is the most used plugin along with it. Also for example in number of
>>>>> installs, if there are 10.000 downloads on wordpress.org is
>>>>> interesting to know how many people use actually the theme and how big are
>>>>> those sites, the same is nice to know if a particular feature is
>>>>> enabled/disabled by most of the users or not .
>>>>>
>>>>> The thing is that in most of the cases users don't provide feedback,
>>>>> if they don't like something after they download the theme, they look for
>>>>> another and if there are 2 themes both with 10k downloads but one of them
>>>>> is still present on 1k sites and the other on 3k it means that 1st one has
>>>>> some issues ( maybe it's hard to configure properly as per demo ) .
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 10:57 PM, Ulrich Pogson <
>>>>> grapplerulrich at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What type of information would you track?
>>>>>> On 7 Feb 2014 22:50, "Codeinwp" <support at codeinwp.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Hello everybody,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am thinking for a while at a opt-in tracking solution for our
>>>>>>> themes and plugins that don't bother users/wp.org, but still help
>>>>>>> us build better products and understand our users and I haven't seen any
>>>>>>> debate here, so I am starting it :) .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I came across yoast seo plugin which implement an opt-in tracking
>>>>>>> that tracks : posts/comments/theme used/plugins used/pages/number of users
>>>>>>> and of course since they receive the tracking request from a site, they can
>>>>>>> relate those things with thisismysite.com ( no user tracking,
>>>>>>> unless you subscribe ) .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is this completely acceptable by everyone ?
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> *Ionut Neagu*
>>>>>
>>>>> Head Business Development
>>>>>
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>>
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