[theme-reviewers] GPL and limiting usage

Ünsal Korkmaz unsalkorkmaz at gmail.com
Tue Sep 17 22:34:41 UTC 2013

I dont want to resume on this. Just 1 more question and i will give up.
I read https://themes.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/14116 and i am happier now
but i see their solution:

we're moving pro features and code to a plugin that users will get access
> to when they are members..

They are still trying to bend rules with limiting usage on a different way
(plugin way). What will happen when they move to plugin?
That plugin still cant be GPL and isnt theme author's all publicly selling
products need to be GPL?

Thanks a lot again for everyone that join to conversation.

On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:07 AM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:

> This discussion is inappropriate for this list. As noted few times here
> if you have any questions please add them to the ticket directly, not here.
> We are fully capable of handling any and all reviews and there is
> absolutely
> no need to give us pointers, hold our hand or to show us around.
> Ticket in question was handled accordingly and by the book.
> And if I may, please let's keep the list open for the real questions, not
> to poke
> other authors in the eye :)
> Thanks,
> Emil
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Otto <otto at ottodestruct.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Bryan Hadaway <bhadaway at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Andrew admits that it's an actual usage limitation, NOT a support
>> > limitation. Further, there's discussion of what happens if someone stops
>> > paying their monthly fees, and what happens is that "pro" features are
>> > disabled.
>> >
>> > https://themes.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/14116#comment:15
>> Missed this in your reply... You may also notice that two comments
>> later that I'm the one who pointed out that that wasn't cool. So yes,
>> I'm well aware of the issues with DMS. :)
>> But that isn't what I was talking about in this thread. In the more
>> *general* sense, I am addressing the more *general* statement that
>> people sometimes make with regards to these sort of sales-pitch pages
>> that many theme shops have. Just because some pricing page says "X
>> websites" on it does not immediately make that a usage restriction,
>> and it does not immediately disqualify them from a) being on the
>> commercial page and b) being really, truly, 100% GPL.
>> I get reports like these all the time. Somebody being a bit too
>> pro-active about GPL and enforcement and saying to me "hey, why does
>> theme-company-X say you can use their themes on only one website?" and
>> then getting all annoyed and frantic about it for no reason. Usually
>> these are theme developers too, often using the "but they can do it,
>> why can't we" defense...
>> Yes, you cannot restrict usage and remain GPL-Compatible. But you have
>> to look at what is being sold too. That's all I'm saying. Big flashy
>> marketing crap doesn't tell you the truth about the matter, and
>> sometimes you have to dig deeper before accusing somebody of breaking
>> the license or doing-bad-things. No reason to point fingers when
>> they're doing the right thing and just labeling it wrong. It's much
>> nicer to point out the misleading label and say "hey, that might could
>> be worded better, ya think?" More flies with honey, etc.
>> -Otto
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