[theme-reviewers] Feedback on use of query_posts please-Badidea?

Sat Sep 14 11:46:51 UTC 2013

In the specific case of is_front_page(), yes: front-page.php takes
precedence of anything else. When is_front_page() is true, and
front-page.php exists, WordPress will use it as the contextual template,
always.

If front-page.php does *not* exist, then the Template Hierarchy invokes a
divergent fallback, depending on get_option( 'show_on_front' ):

- 'page': use the Page
Template<http://codex.wordpress.org/Template_Hierarchy#Page_display>hierarchy
(_wp_page_template, page-{id}.php, page-{slug}.php, page.php,
index.php)
- 'posts': use the Home
Template<http://codex.wordpress.org/Template_Hierarchy#Home_Page_display>hierarchy
(home.php, index.php)

ZGani - take note here: on the static page assigned to display the blog
posts index, any custom page template assignment is ignored. So, whether or
not you assign a custom template to that page, WordPress is going to use
either home.php or index.php to render that page.

On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 11:04 PM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph) <
philip at frumph.net> wrote:

>   So front-page.php basically template redirects ‘overrides’ the page
> that you set it to then?   and the blog loop uses the pre-get-parser at
> that point on it?
>
> Damn, well yeah I was doing it wrong.  (sorry chip)
>
>
>  *From:* Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net>
> *Sent:* Friday, September 13, 2013 7:48 PM
> *To:* Discussion list for WordPress theme reviewers.<theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [theme-reviewers] Feedback on use of query_posts
> please-Badidea?
>
>  You don't assign front-page.php to a static page, because front-page.php
> isn't a custom page template. In fact, front-page.php should *not* even
> have a "Template Name:" phpDoc header (which is what would allow it to be
> assigned to a static page).
>
> The front-page.php template file is used contextually by WordPress, as per
> the Template Hierarchy, based on settings -> reading -> "front page
> displays" and "front page".
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:42 PM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph) <
> philip at frumph.net> wrote:
>
>>   (snicker) guess I’ am doing it wrong then, because that has never
>> worked for me to assign front-page.php to a static page it has always
>> overwritten the main
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  *From:* Zulfikar Nore <zulfikarnore at live.com>
>> *Sent:* Friday, September 13, 2013 7:32 PM
>> *To:* Theme Reviewers <theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org>
>>  *Subject:* Re: [theme-reviewers] Feedback on use of query_posts please
>> -Badidea?
>>
>>   Ah, progress....
>> Now I'm getting the hang of front-page.php :)
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 22:30:14 -0400
>> From: chip at chipbennett.net
>> To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
>> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Feedback on use of query_posts please
>> -Badidea?
>>
>> Both front-page.php and home.php are templates, defined in the Template
>> Hierarchy. What they are not, however, is custom static-page templates.
>> WordPress provides a core method to assign a static page to the front page
>> and to display the blog posts index, and the Template Hierarchy defines
>> which template files are used to render those contexts.
>>
>> To answer your specific question: when a user selects "static page" for
>> "front page displays, and then assigns static pages to the front page and
>> posts page, WordPress will use front-page.php to render the front page, and
>> home.php to render the posts page.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:27 PM, Zulfikar Nore <zulfikarnore at live.com>wrote:
>>
>>  Neither of which are templates.
>>
>> front-page.php will be picked up first so where will home.php fit in?
>>
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 22:24:49 -0400
>>
>> From: chip at chipbennett.net
>> To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
>> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Feedback on use of query_posts please
>> -Badidea?
>>
>> That other page is... (wait for it...)
>>
>> home.php
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:23 PM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph) <
>> philip at frumph.net> wrote:
>>
>>   Okay so you have it "HALF” right .
>>
>> the second part of that is to have the BLOG LOOP on another PAGE
>>
>> get it yet?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  *From:* Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net>
>> *Sent:* Friday, September 13, 2013 7:14 PM
>>  *To:* Discussion list for WordPress theme reviewers.<theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [theme-reviewers] Feedback on use of query_posts please
>> -Badidea?
>>
>>   No, I think I have it exactly:
>>
>> "But I've had a lot of requests for options to hide certain sections and
>> one of them *was the blog feed on front page*."
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph) <
>> philip at frumph.net> wrote:
>>
>>   Yeah, you’re not getting it.
>>
>> It’s not for the front page
>>
>>
>>
>>  *From:* Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net>
>> *Sent:* Friday, September 13, 2013 7:11 PM
>>  *To:* Discussion list for WordPress theme reviewers.<theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org>
>>  *Subject:* Re: [theme-reviewers] Feedback on use of query_posts please
>> - Badidea?
>>
>>   index.php is NOT the front page template, and should not be used as
>> such. It is the default fallback template.
>>
>> Use front-page.php for your front page template, and home.php for your
>> blog posts index template. Then all of your issues go away, magically. :)
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 9:48 PM, Zulfikar Nore <zulfikarnore at live.com>wrote:
>>
>>  I'm using the index.php showing featured content at the top followed by
>> the blog feed - which works fine and I had planned to stick with that. But
>> I've had a lot of requests for options to hide certain sections and one of
>> them was the blog feed on front page.
>>
>> template.blog.php is to open the option to still have a page with the
>> blog feed on it when the user has opted to hide them on the front.
>>
>> Long story short - user hides posts on front but still wants a blog fed
>> page and this is my attempt to fill that need.
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 21:42:43 -0400
>> From: chip at chipbennett.net
>> To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
>>
>> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Feedback on use of query_posts please -
>> Bad idea?
>>
>>  Why do you need template-blog.php when there is home.php for exactly
>> that purpose?
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Zulfikar Nore <zulfikarnore at live.com>wrote:
>>
>>  I've read around that using query_posts is bad but I've seen many a
>> themes using it and get away with it.
>>
>> My case is I'm trying to put together a template-blog.php for StrapVert
>> and this is what I've come up with so far:
>>
>>  add_filter('option_show_on_front', '__return_false');
>>   global $wp_query;
>>     query_posts(array(
>>   'paged' => $wp_query->get('paged'),
>>   'post__not_in' => get_option('sticky_posts'),
>>     ));
>>
>>   global $more; $more = 0;
>>     get_template_part('index-blog');
>>        $more = 1;
>> remove_filter('option_show_on_front', '__return_false');
>>
>>    wp_reset_query();
>> wp_reset_postdata();
>>
>> But before I add these changes to the theme and submit an update I'd like
>> some feedback on "How Really Bad" is query_posts and can I "get away" with
>> the above?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Zulf
>>
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