[theme-reviewers] GPL Screenshots

Chip Bennett chip at chipbennett.net
Wed Nov 13 13:19:48 UTC 2013


Unless those thumbnails are visible in the default installation state, I
would recommend changing the screenshot.


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Rohit Tripathi <rohitink at live.com> wrote:

> So, should I state licenses for each of the visible thumbnails in the
> theme?
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 07:58:15 -0500
> From: chip at chipbennett.net
>
> To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] GPL Screenshots
>
> As for "fairness": no Theme developers are "picked out". All-human,
> all-volunteer team. We're going to miss some things sometimes. When we find
> them, or they are brought to our attention, we address them.
>
> As for images used in screenshots: that is part of the reason for the
> "reasonable facsimile" requirement for screenshots. If the default
> installation is too far afield of the screenshot, then the screenshot is
> already inappropriate, regardless of the copyright/trademark status of
> images used to generate the screenshot.
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 7:54 AM, Thomas from ThemeZee <
> contact at themezee.com> wrote:
>
> I guess there are a lot of themes which have images in their screenshots
> which are not GPL licensed or GPL compatible (some just look like stock
> photos). I have actually thought about updating some of my theme
> screenshots with better images, too. Since a lot of themes do that I
> thought it would be okay.
>
> I don't mind personally if such images in screenshots are allowed or not
> in the future, but I find it is a little bit unfair when some theme authors
> are picked out to remove their screenshot images, while others are still
> allowed to use them. As far as I can see no reviewer has ever taken any
> look on the theme screenshot and therefore every image in screenshots was
> approved without checking for GPL compatibility.
>
> Maybe a good rule would be that any images on the screenshot have also to
> be bundled with the theme (would be also very fair for users because they
> can get the theme as displayed on the screenshot). And bundled theme
> resources are checked against GPL anyway.
>
>
> 2013/11/13 yulian yordanov <yul.yordanov at gmail.com>
>
> Fair use of a picture is when you wrote a post about the movie and include
> a picture form it as an illustration.
> But what is the purpose of such a picture in the theme's screenshot? The
> author simply wants by using a catchy image his theme to be easily spotted
> and distinguished among all others, don't he. So it is just a sort of
> advertisement not a fair use of a picture. Moreover, using such is a 'mind
> trick' - the user is made to associate that nice looking picture with the
> theme itself ;)
>
> Fingli
>
>
> 2013/11/13 Rohit Tripathi <rohitink at live.com>
>
> What about Screenshots of Yutube Videos?
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 00:12:52 -0600
> From: emil at uzelac.me
> To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] GPL Screenshots
>
>
> Thanks :-)
> On Nov 13, 2013 12:11 AM, "Justin Tadlock" <justin at justintadlock.com>
> wrote:
>
>  The last version I downloaded had Spider-Man, Batman, Fight Club, and
> other images.  It also had a YouTube music video.  I might not have the
> latest version though.  I'll check as soon as I get a chance.
>
> On 11/13/2013 12:05 AM, Emil Uzelac wrote:
>
> You are absolutely correct. All non-GPL images were removed while back,
> did we miss any? if so would you be kind and point them to us and I will
> personally remove them.
> On Nov 13, 2013 12:01 AM, "Justin Tadlock" <justin at justintadlock.com>
> wrote:
>
>  I'm inclined to believe that this falls under fair use based on the few
> court rulings I've read about similar issues.  I don't care what we decide
> though.  If we're putting a stop screenshots like this, then the theme unit
> test data must be revised to include images and other media that are
> licensed under the GPL.  I know many people, myself included, have
> screenshots that include theme unit test data.
>
> On 11/12/2013 11:07 PM, Rohit Tripathi wrote:
>
> I was asked to update my screenshots for a theme because, a part of the
> screenshot contained an image(post with featured image) from a movie.
> Obviously, the movie is copyrighted to someone else, but I am not
> distributing the poster with the theme. Secondly, I am not violating any
> copyrights too. Screenshots are just demonstrations of a site using my
> theme. What can be a better screenshot than the screenshot of a real site
> actually using the theme?
>
>  Secondly, if the images shown in the screenshots itself have to be under
> GPL then there can be many problems with a large amount of themes. None of
> the themes, declare licenses for the images/site used to create the
> screenshot. I bet most of them are not GPL. But, it doesn't matter we are
> not distributing the images. It only makes the theme looks good. Moreover,
> we are not using paid or pirated images. Also, the images used to build the
> screenshot are not even Default images in the theme, that they would show
> up in theme preview.
>
>  Thirdly, even the components of the Theme Unit test might cause a
> conflict with the screenshot being GPL. For e.g. the *Post Format Test:
> Video*(in theme unit test)*, *if the screenshot contains that particular
> post, then the video would appear in it. The image of the Video/or the
> Thumbnail of the video is not under GPL. So, isn't that a problem?
>
>  All I want to say is that, we are all using fully GPL compatible
> resources in our themes. I think, there shouldn't be such strictness on the
> themes. Also, I would completely respect the decision taken by theme admins
> on this. But, I atleast request you to understand the genuinity of the
> cause I bring to you.
>
>  Regards,
> Rohit Tripathi
>
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