[theme-reviewers] No More Private Off-listing Please (out of context)

[Chip Bennett]

I also agree with you about the off-list discussion nonsense.

But I also think that, for the most part, discussions on the
*theme-reviewers* mail-list should have at least a modicum of salience to
Theme Review (the Guidelines, the process, Extend, code quality, best
practices, etc.). I've honestly not read word-for-word everything you've
written here, because it seems like an awful lot of words to say: public
lists are meant for public discussions, and those discussions should remain
public.

Theme Review is a huge undertaking, and none of us has the time or
resources to get mired in needless drama. The Theme Review Team has made a
conscientious effort to keep all discussions and decision-making as open
and public as possible - in order to ensure full disclosure, objectivity,
fairness, and engagement; and to avoid drama and discontent. That's
important, because Theme Review involves matters about which there are many
different opinions, and often heated disagreements. We need to have open
discussions about such matters, in order to build consensus around them.

Going forward, let's all please try to remember that, and keep all public
discussions public.


On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 2:54 AM, Bryan Hadaway <bhadaway at gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't see why anything anyone wishes to discuss would be awkward. I've
> raised an issue that I have with the list, those that are apart of this
> list who are interested in reading this and form an opinion or agree or
> disagree can freely respond to the discussion. That's pretty straight
> forward. That's how it works.
>
> What's the point? What's the point of saying what's the point to any
> discussion? You either have something to add to a discussion or you don't.
> Dismissing a discussion and basically saying why are you discussing is
> what's pointless. It's like going into a topic of people discussing their
> favorite shade of blue and asking why are you guying talking about the
> color blue, I don't like blue? So obviously that's not a discussion that
> concerns or interests you...
>
> But, to answer your question anyways. Often discussions in this list
> either receive no replies whatsoever, dissipate quickly or ultimately reach
> no conclusion/resolution. That's actually pretty typical anyways. Come on
> Emil, should we just stop starting discussions unless we're sure everyone
> will be interested? In fact, it generally works in the complete opposite.
> Discussions are brought to the list to gauge how the list feels about it.
> As an admin you should know better than most that to "stop" a discussion is
> least constructive of all.
>
> Besides that, I've already explained that I know first-hand people take
> away something from these discussions even if they don't respond in-list,
> because they do respond off-list. You're only going to prove my point about
> why that's an issue, which is what I'm trying to clarify though you're
> right, it's quickly becoming a lost cause.
>
> So, do you actually have an opinion on the subject at hand instead of an
> opinion about sharing opinions?
>
> Anyone who wants to add something relevant to the subject at hand will,
> and eventually it'll just die off like most other discussions. Just let it
> be.
>
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