[theme-reviewers] Questions on my first review

[Thomas from ThemeZee]

Ah of course shortcodes and CPTs should always be forbidden because they
cause really high lock-in effects, but there are also lock-in effects
(although they're smaller) of Google Analytics and SEO options.

My email should not induce that these things should be allowed, I just want
a clear guideline :)

Best Regards,
Thomas


2013/6/12 Thomas from ThemeZee <contact at themezee.com>

> Allowing {plugin-territory-stuff} now (even if it's disabled by default)
> would have the effect that theme developers are allowed to also include
> shortcodes and custom post types in their themes.
>
> After all in my opinion shortcodes and CPTs are more presentational than
> sharing buttons, google analytics and SEO. I had planned to include a
> simple image slideshow based on CPTs a few month ago and was turned down.
>
> And it was a good thing. It took me some time but now I truly believe that
> themes should not include any plugin territory features. Therefore I would
> suggest to continue the {plugin-territory-stuff} is strictly forbidden
> policy..
>
> The only thing that really bugs me is that there is no guideline and no
> consistent rules. The result is that their are hundred of themes which have
> a lot of plugin stuff in their themes and other themes are rejected for the
> exact same features.
>
> I can live with both {plugin-territory-stuff} is allowed or not, but it
> should be stated clearly in the guidelines and applied by all theme
> reviewers.
>
> Just my 2 cents
> Thomas
>
>
> 2013/6/12 Peter Kakoma <kakomap at gmail.com>
>
>> The issue is that there is no definitive guideline about
>> {plugin-territory-stuff}. I believe the end-goal of this discussion is to
>> draft one and share it with the rest of the world (otherwise we'll be
>> discussing this again two months from now when a first-time reviewer asks
>> the same question)
>>
>> And in as much as my theme is guilty of adding Analytics, I agree with
>> you-the line should be drawn at non-presentational stuff (*cough* SEO,
>> *cough*). Removing Analytics now, updating the theme.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net>wrote:
>>
>>> I don't agree that the Favicon guidelines are appropriate for extending
>>> to all {plugin territory} functionality.
>>>
>>> Things that are marginally presentational (e.g. sharing links)? Using
>>> the Favicon guidelines as a model is reasonable. But Google Analytics: no
>>> reason to facilitate Themes adding this functionality. It's not in any way
>>> whatsoever presentational. As far as I'm concerned, that's an absolute line
>>> of demarcation. If it's not in any way presentational, it doesn't belong in
>>> a Theme, opt-in/disabled-by-default or otherwise.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Edward Caissie <
>>> edward.caissie at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 2:46 AM, Peter Kakoma <kakomap at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Themes are recommended not to implement custom
>>>>> {plugin-territory-stuff} functionality.
>>>>> If implemented, {plugin-territory-stuff} functionality is required to
>>>>> be opt-in, and disabled by default.
>>>>> If implemented, {plugin-territory-stuff} functionality is required to
>>>>> support user-defined {plugin-territory-stuff} images
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Those points are fairly well sorted except for the third which is
>>>> really more relevant to the original ideas behind the use of favicons, but
>>>> if you use the first two points as your benchmark then you should be (for
>>>> the most part but not 100% guaranteed) fine with going forward.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Edward Caissie
>>>> aka Cais.
>>>>
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