[theme-reviewers] Theme author is asking end user to install less php

Thu Jul 4 21:21:39 UTC 2013

*I meant*

No need to rely or require WP-LESS*

On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:

> If he ships the Theme with LESS as an additional (optional) feature and
> the Theme
> works out of the box as you and Chip mentioned, it's still good to go and
> acceptable :)
>
> No need to rely or require on WP-LESS.
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Josh Pollock <jpollock412 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> @Divesh-
>>
>> If you ship your theme with processed and unprocessed code, as well as
>> directions in your readme for using wpless with your theme then all of
>> the requirements (theme review guidelines and yours) will be met. That way
>> it works out of the box, but the end user knows you used wpless and how to
>> use it to modify your theme.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:
>>
>>> even though if there's an option and the Theme works
>>> right without the preprocessors is not the reason to fail
>>> a Theme
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Amy Hendrix <sabreuse at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'd say that both Sass and LESS files should be accepted (because if
>>>> you're a Sass or LESS user, it's far preferable to make any downstream
>>>> changes to the original files) -- but the theme should be packaged
>>>> with compiled css, and not depend on running any preprocessing live,
>>>> whether it's directly on the server or by way of a WP plugin.
>>>>
>>>> Emil, the tutorial you point to is about using preprocessors in your
>>>> development environment and compiling out the finished css. The
>>>> original question was about requiring libraries to compile it live on
>>>> the server, which should not be approved IMO (and which is a terrible
>>>> idea for preprocessing performance, but that's a debate that's way out
>>>> of scope for this list!)
>>>>
>>>> Personally, I love preprocessors; I think it's the way of the future
>>>> and I maintain a library for working with Sass and _s. But asking
>>>> users to install extra libraries just to be able to use a theme at all
>>>> is _doing_it_wrong().
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at uzelac.me> wrote:
>>>> > Both Sass and LESS preprocessor should be accepted.
>>>> > Not really sure if you need any extra PHP's for this.
>>>> > Take a look at this brief tut.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Jose Castaneda <
>>>> jomcastaneda at gmail.com>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The thing to remember about the WordPress theme repo is that not
>>>> everybody
>>>> >> that will use your theme is a developer. More often than not it is a
>>>> person
>>>> >> with little to no knowledge of web development or programming
>>>> prowess. What
>>>> >> I would do is include both the LESS files and the compiled CSS and
>>>> leave a
>>>> >> note on the readme file or put up some sort of notice.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 7:54 AM, divesh kumar <
>>>> diveshkumar1983 at gmail.com>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> hi greg
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> but if i use compiled css it will be just a plain css and nobody
>>>> would
>>>> >>> get to know that its using lessphp.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Jul 4, 2013 5:15 PM, "Srikanth Koneru" <tskk79 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> The basic theme must function without depending on any plugin. You
>>>> can
>>>> >>>> have additional features which can come live if plugins(that are
>>>> required
>>>> >>>> for those features) are activated.
>>>> >>>> If lessphp framework is allowed in themes, you can bundle it with
>>>> your
>>>> >>>> theme itself.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 4:52 PM, divesh kumar <
>>>> diveshkumar1983 at gmail.com>
>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Hi Kavita,
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Thanks for the reference. so that means user must install that
>>>> plugin
>>>> >>>>> in order to use my theme. Can i create any kind of dependency of
>>>> my theme to
>>>> >>>>> use this?
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Kavita Kumawat <
>>>> erkavecb at gmail.com>
>>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> you may want to check this.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> http://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-less/
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> -Kavita
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 3:34 PM, divesh kumar
>>>> >>>>>> <diveshkumar1983 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Guys,
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Does that means I cannot use SASS or any other CSS framework
>>>> with
>>>> >>>>>>> wordpress theme. I don't think this make sense.
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Srikanth Koneru <
>>>> tskk79 at gmail.com>
>>>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> Themes should work out of the box.
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 2:19 PM, carolina poena
>>>> >>>>>>>> <myazalea at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> ticket: http://themes.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/12893
>>>> >>>>>>>>> In readme:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1. Upload the `snAdaptive` folder to the `/wp-content/themes/`
>>>> >>>>>>>>> directory
>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2. Download lessphp framework from
>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://leafo.net/lessphp/src/lessphp-0.3.9.tar.gz.
>>>> >>>>>>>>> 3. Extract it in the directory themes/snAdaptive/lessphp.
>>>> >>>>>>>>> 4. Make sure there is a file less.inc.php in directory
>>>> >>>>>>>>> /themes/snAdaptive/lessphp/.
>>>> >>>>>>>>> 5. Now you are ready to use the theme.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> The theme will not be approved eitherway but this is not ok
>>>> right?
>>>> >>>>>>>>> ^^
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> //Carolina
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
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