[theme-reviewers] Newbie theme reviewer question - Browser compatability

Paul Appleyard paul at spacecat.com
Fri Feb 1 08:08:38 UTC 2013 

On 1/02/2013 5:53 PM, Alex Watson wrote:
> I think we should recommend that the theme works in all modern 
> browsers. Microsoft have just launched http://www.modern.ie 
> <http://www.modern.ie/> making it a lot easier to test in IE. Being a 
> web developer I have a Browserstack account, as making sure my work is 
> cross browser compatible is essential to me. Besides, nowadays its a 
> lot easier to make sure sites work in IE, compared to the days of IE6!
*
*/Agreed; but once again it comes down to the reviewer testing it in all 
modern browsers./

>
> Btw the guy who built the theme has got back to me and says that the 
> theme does not support IE9+. (odd, as i notice he does include the 
> html5shiv.js, so he must be thinking about IE at least. Anyway I am 
> yet to actually test his site in IE) As a theme reviewer, regardless 
> of the guidelines I will be testing in all modern browsers anyway. If 
> a site totally breaks in IE9+ (perhaps even in IE8) then I'd have 
> concerns.

/So 'does not support IE9+' would mean all IE versions - unless for some 
weird reason it works in, say, IE8 .. but I guess what he's saying is 
that he doesn't expect it to work properly in IE. Out of curiosity, what 
are these features that IE can't handle?/

>
> Alex

/Paul/


>
> On Friday, 1 February 2013 at 07:13, Paul Appleyard wrote:
>> Any new browser-centric requirements would hit a limitation on what 
>> browser the reviewer uses, or can use. So there's a built-in 
>> restriction on browser support, in that it must support the 
>> reviewer's browser, which is very likely a recent Chrome or Firefox 
>> iteration.
>>
>> I guess it (theme-specified browser requirements) would also come in 
>> to play as an issue if the theme author is implementing some pretty 
>> specific Javascript or HTML5 (some advanced canvas manipulation stuff 
>> for example, although Excanvas helps there too with IE7/8) And that's 
>> bleeding in to plugin territory, really.
>>
>> To sum up: If it doesn't break in a way to fail on existing 
>> guidelines, let it be. Therefore, the only amendment to review 
>> guidelines would be that testing be done in an up-to-date browser; is 
>> that requirement in there already?
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On 1/02/2013 2:43 PM, Justin Tadlock wrote:
>>> I'm pretty much in agreement with Chip.
>>>
>>> My personal rule in regards to IE is to support the 2 latest 
>>> versions, which are currently 9 and 10.
>>>
>>> On 1/31/2013 7:03 PM, Chip Bennett wrote:
>>>> I have no problem with it. A properly developed and designed Theme 
>>>> should have minimal IE issues anymore, anyway.
>>>>
>>>> I don't "support" IE with my Theme, either. I can't; I use Linux, 
>>>> and thus have no way of even *running* IE.
>>>>
>>>> Doing something that actively *excludes* IE (or any other browser) 
>>>> would certainly not be acceptable; but developing a 
>>>> standards-compliant Theme, and opting not to jump through hoops for 
>>>> IE? Meh; doesn't bother me all that much.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 7:20 PM, Edward Caissie 
>>>> <edward.caissie at gmail.com <mailto:edward.caissie at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> Flatly not supporting one of the most commonly found browsers (not 
>>>>> necessarily used but it does come with Windows) is not a very good 
>>>>> idea; and although we do not have any specific guidelines in place 
>>>>> I think if a Theme Author is going that route something that 
>>>>> significant should be in the Theme description.
>>>>>
>>>>> As it is, you would be better served by asking the Theme author to 
>>>>> explain that statement before making any assumptions. As noted, it 
>>>>> may only be that they are supporting current versions of IE and 
>>>>> simply left off the version number in their readme file.
>>>>>
>>>>> Myself, for general distribution themes, I only support current 
>>>>> (or one version back at the most) browsers. I don't state the 
>>>>> actual version only making reference to the browser being current. 
>>>>> Of course, client work is generally different but those "rules" do 
>>>>> not necessarily apply here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Edward Caissie
>>>>> aka Cais.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 7:12 PM, John Heimkes IV <john at heimk.es 
>>>>> <mailto:john at heimk.es>> wrote:
>>>>>> That's a great question, actually. I'd like to know what the 
>>>>>> general consensus is on this matter. Don't worry about being 
>>>>>> fussy. I've been doing front-end for many years. So, I totally 
>>>>>> get it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My personal opinion is if they're not going to support certain 
>>>>>> browsers (aka, the browsers most of us web developers have to 
>>>>>> support on a daily basis), the author /should/ make it known up 
>>>>>> front - especially in the CSS file for good documentation 
>>>>>> purposes. Some sort of clarification from the author would be 
>>>>>> nice in this case. Maybe they're just not supporting older 
>>>>>> versions of IE and it looks fine in IE10, and maybe even IE9.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, I hope someone else has a better answer!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> John Heimkes IV
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 31, 2013, at 6:03 PM, Srikanth Koneru <tskk79 at gmail.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:tskk79 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since IE has at least 30% browser share, I think theme has to 
>>>>>>> support it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 5:31 AM, Alex Watson 
>>>>>>> <alex at alexwatson.co.uk <mailto:alex at alexwatson.co.uk>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi everyone!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So I'm reviewing my first theme, and a few mins into it I find 
>>>>>>>> this in the readme.txt:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * NOT SUPPORTED on Internet Explore *
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is that okay? Are themes allowed to be built and not work in IE 
>>>>>>>> at all? It's probably the fussy web developer side of me coming 
>>>>>>>> out here, as everything I do has to work in IE8+ :) I've not 
>>>>>>>> got so far as to have tested it in IE yet, but are we even 
>>>>>>>> required to do cross browser testing? I think we should, but I 
>>>>>>>> can't see that in the review guidelines anywhere.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyway, please let me know if I'm just being too fussy here! 
>>>>>>>> (and sorry if this has been asked before but I just joined this 
>>>>>>>> mailing list a couple of days ago)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Many thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> theme-reviewers mailing list
>>>>>>>> theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org>
>>>>>>>> http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> theme-reviewers mailing list
>>>>>>> theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org 
>>>>>>> <mailto:theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org>
>>>>>>> http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> theme-reviewers mailing list
>>>>>> theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org 
>>>>>> <mailto:theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org>
>>>>>> http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> theme-reviewers mailing list
>>>>> theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org 
>>>>> <mailto:theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org>
>>>>> http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> theme-reviewers mailing list
>>>> theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org  <mailto:theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org>
>>>> http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> theme-reviewers mailing list
>>> theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org  <mailto:theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org>
>>> http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> theme-reviewers mailing list
>> theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org 
>> <mailto:theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org>
>> http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> theme-reviewers mailing list
> theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
> http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.wordpress.org/pipermail/theme-reviewers/attachments/20130201/5d2419a0/attachment-0001.htm>

More information about the theme-reviewers mailing list