[theme-reviewers] theme-reviewers Digest, Vol 20, Issue 60
Chandra Maharzan
maharzan at gmail.com
Fri Jan 27 15:32:56 UTC 2012
Cool.. I am just pitching to see if money incentives would work for
both reviewers and in turn to designers who wait 2 or 3 months to get
reviewed (which is frustrating, of course as you know). I don't blame
anyone as its a free thing. I thought .org being a part of Automattic
(correct me if I am wrong) could just "invest" a bit so we really get
great themes on the .org as well (not saying it doesn't have). But as
you said, if this is purely free thing, I take it all back. :-)
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Nitin Reddy <k_nitin_r at yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> Chandra Maharzan,
>
> It is not only the theme authors but also the theme reviewers who get
> discouraged at times. I reviewed the theme listed on my first ticket and
> should have been able to assign myself to another ticket (new version of the
> theme). However, there was a problem with my Trac account and I'm not able
> to assign the ticket for the new (fixed) version of the theme to myself or
> close the original ticket so both the theme author and I are looking at our
> spent efforts yielding no fruit for the community.
>
> I did try posting to the mailing list and contact some of the folks
> associated with the WP theme repository, but I didn't get any help yet. At
> this point, Emil sees my user account listed as a theme reviewer account (or
> something along those lines), my account doesn't let me assign the ticket to
> myself or close the old ticket, and the theme author is awaiting the
> approval after having made the fixes to his/her theme.
>
> The problem is not about volunteers lacking dedication - many, if not most,
> are dedicated to helping out the community. The problem is about not being
> able to help the volunteers when the process or system (Trac, in my case)
> breaks down. I can review at least 3 themes a week. That works out to about
> 14 themes in a month. With 10 volunteers, we can have 140 themes reviewed in
> a month!
>
> Regards,
> Nitin Reddy
>
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> 1. Re: splitting reviewers between queues (Chandra Maharzan)
> 2. Re: splitting reviewers between queues (Simon Prosser)
> 3. Re: splitting reviewers between queues
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> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 19:26:31 +0545
> From: Chandra Maharzan <maharzan at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] splitting reviewers between queues
> To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
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> I haven't reviewed any themes but I do think this volunteer thing
> might need to go at some point. Have a dedicated team who reviews
> themes and they get incentives on each theme or something. Otherwise
> like a person said above, people are discouraged. I was when I
> submitted a theme about a year ago and it was reviewed in a long time
> and the same thing is happening now. And I have 2 themes in the repo,
> pretty popular ones. I am sure many designers feel like me.
>
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Phenomenoodle | Taryn Wallis
> <taryn at phenomenoodle.com> wrote:
>> Up until about 5 years ago (when I transitioned into web design full-time)
>> I
>> was an Organizational Psychologist - things like badges work well as a
>> motivational tool for some types of people, and absolutely not for others.
>> I'm one of the others :)
>>
>> If there was a badge, I might consider putting it on my site, but it would
>> have zero impact from an incentive point of view. I'm far more internally
>> motivated, so external things like badges (or certificates etc) have no
>> real
>> meaning to me. In terms of theme reviews, I contribute because it allows
>> me
>> to give back to the community and to also learn from the experience - if
>> I'm
>> not able to do reviews, it's not because of lack of motivation, but simply
>> a
>> lack of time :(
>>
>> ______________________________
>> Taryn Wallis
>> Phenomenoodle
>> WordPress design & development
>> www.phenomenoodle.com
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 8:36 AM, Netzberufler
>> <netzberufler at googlemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I find Badges are a great idea. They should also be included into the
>>> WordPress Profile Pages. http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/ or
>>> http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/profile/ . BTW why are there different
>>> profile pages on wordpress.org?
>>>
>>> I currently don't review themes cause of my exams but I will begin
>>> reviewing again in 2 weeks ;)
>>>
>>> 2012/1/26 Rankin, Matthew W. (Student) <mrankin at my.ccsu.edu>
>>>
>>>> Not directly related to this email thread but seems like a good place to
>>>> post it. I was thinking about why there aren't more volunteer reviewers
>>>> and
>>>> why many are slow to review themes. I think it may be because it lacks
>>>> incentive. So, I had an idea which may attract more reviewers and
>>>> increase
>>>> productivity among current reviewers. My idea is to create a WordPress
>>>> badge. Theme reviewers can post this badge on their own websites to say
>>>> that
>>>> they contribute to WordPress. You could even create different levels of
>>>> badges so as you review more themes you get higher level badges. It's a
>>>> simple idea which has proven effective on many websites around the web.
>>>> What
>>>> does everyone else think of this idea?
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: theme-reviewers-bounces at lists.wordpress.org
>>>> [theme-reviewers-bounces at lists.wordpress.org] on behalf of Rankin,
>>>> Matthew
>>>> W. (Student) [mrankin at my.ccsu.edu]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 12:49 PM
>>>>
>>>> To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] splitting reviewers between queues
>>>>
>>>> I'll do my best to follow your lead Chip. I've just been so busy lately
>>>> I
>>>> haven't had time to do many reviews. But I should be able to fit in one
>>>> theme a day.
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: theme-reviewers-bounces at lists.wordpress.org
>>>> [theme-reviewers-bounces at lists.wordpress.org] on behalf of Chip Bennett
>>>> [chip at chipbennett.net]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 12:31 PM
>>>> To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] splitting reviewers between queues
>>>>
>>>> I don't think a paradigm shift is necessary (or helpful) at this point.
>>>>
>>>> The bottom line is: about 10 tickets per day are submitted. Thus, we
>>>> need
>>>> about 10 tickets per day reviewed and closed, in order to keep up with
>>>> the
>>>> submission rate. We are approaching 100 people who have reviewed Themes.
>>>> If
>>>> every person with ticket privileges reviewed two tickets, we would
>>>> exhaust
>>>> the current queue entirely.
>>>>
>>>> I've tried to push in the past to get reviewers to consider committing
>>>> to
>>>> a certain minimum level of participation, but as you've noted: it's not
>>>> practical. We ARE all volunteers, and all have extremely busy schedules.
>>>> (I
>>>> last saw a "40-hour work week" sometime last summer.) Efforts to get
>>>> such
>>>> commitments inevitably have the opposite effect, as IMX they have only
>>>> driven volunteers AWAY from contributing their time.
>>>>
>>>> That said: I'll do my best to lead by example. I will commit to
>>>> reviewing
>>>> one Theme per day, every day.
>>>>
>>>> Chip
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Edward Caissie
>>>> <edward.caissie at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Although it shouldn't need to be written, but once again it appears a
>>>>> reminder appears to be needed ...
>>>>>
>>>>> To the best of my knowledge, every member of the current Theme Review
>>>>> Team is a volunteer. Every member also has a "full work load" with many
>>>>> simply unable to devote any time to this volunteer activity during that
>>>>> scheduled time. Many of the volunteers have other additional WordPress
>>>>> related activities that add to their typical "40-hour week" work load.
>>>>> We
>>>>> all have lives, too ... so, quite simply, we give what time we can and
>>>>> look
>>>>> to the community to contribute some of their time. Wait times, as noted
>>>>> many
>>>>> times, are inversely proportional to the amount of volunteer reviewers
>>>>> available to do the work.
>>>>>
>>>>> We can appreciate the wait time is long and frustrating. This is not
>>>>> the
>>>>> only time this topic has been discussed, these are not the only ideas
>>>>> that
>>>>> have been considered. Unfortunately until their is perhaps a paradigm
>>>>> shift
>>>>> in regards to the WPTRT we may simply be forced to continue to endure
>>>>> and
>>>>> forge ahead under these conditions.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cais.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Bruce Wampler <weavertheme at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to add my perspective on the review process.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have been submitting one theme - with revisions and slight name
>>>>>> modifications - for almost two years now - starting with 2010 Weaver,
>>>>>> changed to simply Weaver, and now Weaver II.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because Weaver II is a name change, and represents a total rewrite of
>>>>>> Weaver, it has been in the Priority Queue for almost 3 months now.
>>>>>> I've just
>>>>>> been sitting here waiting my turn.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But seriously - three months for new themes? The past week, the review
>>>>>> rate has been only one new theme reviewed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is important to keep existing themes up to date - but to
>>>>>> essentially
>>>>>> have the new theme approval rate one a week will do nothing to
>>>>>> encourage
>>>>>> authors to submit new themes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had good reasons to change from Weaver to Weaver II, and perhaps
>>>>>> should have requested it be treated as a revision of the existing
>>>>>> approved
>>>>>> theme. But I don know if I knew three months ago, that I likely would
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> done things differently, including the possibility of simply
>>>>>> abandoning the
>>>>>> WP theme repository.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But Weaver II represents a cutting edge theme/framework that has (or
>>>>>> had three months ago) really new features, including what I think is
>>>>>> likely
>>>>>> the best mobile support of any WP theme. It is really frustrating to
>>>>>> see it
>>>>>> languish in the queue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just think a almost three month wait is excessive, and will
>>>>>> seriously
>>>>>> discourage developers from developing and submitting new themes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The discussion of new 3.4 features seems almost silly since if the new
>>>>>> queue theme stays at several months, it is likely that there won't be
>>>>>> any
>>>>>> new themes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I believe is really important to keep fresh, new themes with cutting
>>>>>> edge features coming in for the future health of WordPress.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just some thoughts. I believe something needs to be done. I'd
>>>>>> volunteer
>>>>>> to review some themes, but I have serious ethical concerns about that,
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> well as a full work load supporting my theme which has become very
>>>>>> popular
>>>>>> on its own while waiting on the queue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bruce Wampler
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> theme-reviewers mailing list
>>>>>> theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
>>>>>> http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 14:09:37 +0000
> From: Simon Prosser <pross at pross.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] splitting reviewers between queues
> To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
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> What incentives? wordpress.org is a free organization and the theme
> team volunteer the time to review themes in their spare time.
> They all have regular jobs and lives as well.
>
> On 27 January 2012 13:41, Chandra Maharzan <maharzan at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I haven't reviewed any themes but I do think ?this volunteer thing
>> might need to go at some point. Have a dedicated team who reviews
>> themes and they get incentives on each theme or something. Otherwise
>> like a person said above, people are discouraged. I was when I
>> submitted a theme about a year ago and it was reviewed in a long time
>> and the same thing is happening now. And I have 2 themes in the repo,
>> pretty popular ones. I am sure many designers feel like me.
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Phenomenoodle | Taryn Wallis
>> <taryn at phenomenoodle.com> wrote:
>>> Up until about 5 years ago (when I transitioned into web design
>>> full-time) I
>>> was an Organizational Psychologist - things like badges work well as a
>>> motivational tool for some types of people, and absolutely not for
>>> others.
>>> I'm one of the others :)
>>>
>>> If there was a badge, I might consider putting it on my site, but it
>>> would
>>> have zero impact from an incentive point of view. I'm far more internally
>>> motivated, so external things like badges (or certificates etc) have no
>>> real
>>> meaning to me. In terms of theme reviews, I contribute because it allows
>>> me
>>> to give back to the community and to also learn from the experience - if
>>> I'm
>>> not able to do reviews, it's not because of lack of motivation, but
>>> simply a
>>> lack of time :(
>>>
>>> ______________________________
>>> Taryn Wallis
>>> Phenomenoodle
>>> WordPress design & development
>>> www.phenomenoodle.com
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 8:36 AM, Netzberufler
>>> <netzberufler at googlemail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I find Badges are a great idea. They should also be included into the
>>>> WordPress Profile Pages. http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/ or
>>>> http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/profile/ . BTW why are there
>>>> different
>>>> profile pages on wordpress.org?
>>>>
>>>> I currently don't review themes cause of my exams but I will begin
>>>> reviewing again in 2 weeks ;)
>>>>
>>>> 2012/1/26 Rankin, Matthew W. (Student) <mrankin at my.ccsu.edu>
>>>>
>>>>> Not directly related to this email thread but seems like a good place
>>>>> to
>>>>> post it. I was thinking about why there aren't more volunteer reviewers
>>>>> and
>>>>> why many are slow to review themes. I think it may be because it lacks
>>>>> incentive. So, I had an idea which may attract more reviewers and
>>>>> increase
>>>>> productivity among current reviewers. My idea is to create a WordPress
>>>>> badge. Theme reviewers can post this badge on their own websites to say
>>>>> that
>>>>> they contribute to WordPress. You could even create different levels of
>>>>> badges so as you review more themes you get higher level badges. It's a
>>>>> simple idea which has proven effective on many websites around the web.
>>>>> What
>>>>> does everyone else think of this idea?
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: theme-reviewers-bounces at lists.wordpress.org
>>>>> [theme-reviewers-bounces at lists.wordpress.org] on behalf of Rankin,
>>>>> Matthew
>>>>> W. (Student) [mrankin at my.ccsu.edu]
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 12:49 PM
>>>>>
>>>>> To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] splitting reviewers between queues
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll do my best to follow your lead Chip. I've just been so busy lately
>>>>> I
>>>>> haven't had time to do many reviews. But I should be able to fit in one
>>>>> theme a day.
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: theme-reviewers-bounces at lists.wordpress.org
>>>>> [theme-reviewers-bounces at lists.wordpress.org] on behalf of Chip Bennett
>>>>> [chip at chipbennett.net]
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 12:31 PM
>>>>> To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] splitting reviewers between queues
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think a paradigm shift is necessary (or helpful) at this point.
>>>>>
>>>>> The bottom line is: about 10 tickets per day are submitted. Thus, we
>>>>> need
>>>>> about 10 tickets per day reviewed and closed, in order to keep up with
>>>>> the
>>>>> submission rate. We are approaching 100 people who have reviewed
>>>>> Themes. If
>>>>> every person with ticket privileges reviewed two tickets, we would
>>>>> exhaust
>>>>> the current queue entirely.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've tried to push in the past to get reviewers to consider committing
>>>>> to
>>>>> a certain minimum level of participation, but as you've noted: it's not
>>>>> practical. We ARE all volunteers, and all have extremely busy
>>>>> schedules. (I
>>>>> last saw a "40-hour work week" sometime last summer.) Efforts to get
>>>>> such
>>>>> commitments inevitably have the opposite effect, as IMX they have only
>>>>> driven volunteers AWAY from contributing their time.
>>>>>
>>>>> That said: I'll do my best to lead by example. I will commit to
>>>>> reviewing
>>>>> one Theme per day, every day.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chip
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Edward Caissie
>>>>> <edward.caissie at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Although it shouldn't need to be written, but once again it appears a
>>>>>> reminder appears to be needed ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To the best of my knowledge, every member of the current Theme Review
>>>>>> Team is a volunteer. Every member also has a "full work load" with
>>>>>> many
>>>>>> simply unable to devote any time to this volunteer activity during
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> scheduled time. Many of the volunteers have other additional WordPress
>>>>>> related activities that add to their typical "40-hour week" work load.
>>>>>> We
>>>>>> all have lives, too ... so, quite simply, we give what time we can and
>>>>>> look
>>>>>> to the community to contribute some of their time. Wait times, as
>>>>>> noted many
>>>>>> times, are inversely proportional to the amount of volunteer reviewers
>>>>>> available to do the work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We can appreciate the wait time is long and frustrating. This is not
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> only time this topic has been discussed, these are not the only ideas
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> have been considered. Unfortunately until their is perhaps a paradigm
>>>>>> shift
>>>>>> in regards to the WPTRT we may simply be forced to continue to endure
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> forge ahead under these conditions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cais.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Bruce Wampler
>>>>>> <weavertheme at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like to add my perspective on the review process.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have been submitting one theme - with revisions and slight name
>>>>>>> modifications - for almost two years now - starting with 2010 Weaver,
>>>>>>> changed to simply Weaver, and now Weaver II.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Because Weaver II is a name change, and represents a total rewrite of
>>>>>>> Weaver, it has been in the Priority Queue for almost 3 months now.
>>>>>>> I've just
>>>>>>> been sitting here waiting my turn.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But seriously - three months for new themes? The past week, the
>>>>>>> review
>>>>>>> rate has been only one new theme reviewed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is important to keep existing themes up to date - but to
>>>>>>> essentially
>>>>>>> have the new theme approval rate one a week will do nothing to
>>>>>>> encourage
>>>>>>> authors to submit new themes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I had good reasons to change from Weaver to Weaver II, and perhaps
>>>>>>> should have requested it be treated as a revision of the existing
>>>>>>> approved
>>>>>>> theme. But I don know if I knew three months ago, that I likely would
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> done things differently, including the possibility of simply
>>>>>>> abandoning the
>>>>>>> WP theme repository.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But Weaver II represents a cutting edge theme/framework that has (or
>>>>>>> had three months ago) really new features, including what I think is
>>>>>>> likely
>>>>>>> the best mobile support of any WP theme. It is really frustrating to
>>>>>>> see it
>>>>>>> languish in the queue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just think a almost three month wait is excessive, and will
>>>>>>> seriously
>>>>>>> discourage developers from developing and submitting new themes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The discussion of new 3.4 features seems almost silly since if the
>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>> queue theme stays at several months, it is likely that there won't be
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>> new themes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I believe is really important to keep fresh, new themes with cutting
>>>>>>> edge features coming in for the future health of WordPress.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just some thoughts. I believe something needs to be done. I'd
>>>>>>> volunteer
>>>>>>> to review some themes, but I have serious ethical concerns about
>>>>>>> that, as
>>>>>>> well as a full work load supporting my theme which has become very
>>>>>>> popular
>>>>>>> on its own while waiting on the queue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bruce Wampler
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> theme-reviewers mailing list
>>>>>>> theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
>>>>>>> http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> theme-reviewers mailing list
>>>>>> theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
>>>>>> http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> theme-reviewers mailing list
>>>>> theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
>>>>> http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
>>> http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 14:41:05 +0000
> From: "Rankin, Matthew W. (Student)" <mrankin at my.ccsu.edu>
> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] splitting reviewers between queues
> To: "theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org"
> <theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org>
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> There are many people ( myself included ) who review themes just for the
> satisfaction of helping out WordPress. However, there are many people out
> there who need a little more than that to review themes. Even just a thank
> you and a WordPress badge to post up on their site would go a long way in
> attracting more theme reviewers and getting more production out of less
> active reviewers. The idea is fairly straight forward and easy to implement,
> and has a proven record of success as you can see by looking at many other
> websites around the web who use similar ideas.
> ________________________________________
> From: theme-reviewers-bounces at lists.wordpress.org
> [theme-reviewers-bounces at lists.wordpress.org] on behalf of Simon Prosser
> [pross at pross.org.uk]
> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 9:09 AM
> To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] splitting reviewers between queues
>
> What incentives? wordpress.org is a free organization and the theme
> team volunteer the time to review themes in their spare time.
> They all have regular jobs and lives as well.
>
> On 27 January 2012 13:41, Chandra Maharzan <maharzan at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I haven't reviewed any themes but I do think this volunteer thing
>> might need to go at some point. Have a dedicated team who reviews
>> themes and they get incentives on each theme or something. Otherwise
>> like a person said above, people are discouraged. I was when I
>> submitted a theme about a year ago and it was reviewed in a long time
>> and the same thing is happening now. And I have 2 themes in the repo,
>> pretty popular ones. I am sure many designers feel like me.
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Phenomenoodle | Taryn Wallis
>> <taryn at phenomenoodle.com> wrote:
>>> Up until about 5 years ago (when I transitioned into web design
>>> full-time) I
>>> was an Organizational Psychologist - things like badges work well as a
>>> motivational tool for some types of people, and absolutely not for
>>> others.
>>> I'm one of the others :)
>>>
>>> If there was a badge, I might consider putting it on my site, but it
>>> would
>>> have zero impact from an incentive point of view. I'm far more internally
>>> motivated, so external things like badges (or certificates etc) have no
>>> real
>>> meaning to me. In terms of theme reviews, I contribute because it allows
>>> me
>>> to give back to the community and to also learn from the experience - if
>>> I'm
>>> not able to do reviews, it's not because of lack of motivation, but
>>> simply a
>>> lack of time :(
>>>
>>> ______________________________
>>> Taryn Wallis
>>> Phenomenoodle
>>> WordPress design & development
>>> www.phenomenoodle.com
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 8:36 AM, Netzberufler
>>> <netzberufler at googlemail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I find Badges are a great idea. They should also be included into the
>>>> WordPress Profile Pages. http://profiles.wordpress.org/users/ or
>>>> http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/profile/ . BTW why are there
>>>> different
>>>> profile pages on wordpress.org?
>>>>
>>>> I currently don't review themes cause of my exams but I will begin
>>>> reviewing again in 2 weeks ;)
>>>>
>>>> 2012/1/26 Rankin, Matthew W. (Student) <mrankin at my.ccsu.edu>
>>>>
>>>>> Not directly related to this email thread but seems like a good place
>>>>> to
>>>>> post it. I was thinking about why there aren't more volunteer reviewers
>>>>> and
>>>>> why many are slow to review themes. I think it may be because it lacks
>>>>> incentive. So, I had an idea which may attract more reviewers and
>>>>> increase
>>>>> productivity among current reviewers. My idea is to create a WordPress
>>>>> badge. Theme reviewers can post this badge on their own websites to say
>>>>> that
>>>>> they contribute to WordPress. You could even create different levels of
>>>>> badges so as you review more themes you get higher level badges. It's a
>>>>> simple idea which has proven effective on many websites around the web.
>>>>> What
>>>>> does everyone else think of this idea?
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: theme-reviewers-bounces at lists.wordpress.org
>>>>> [theme-reviewers-bounces at lists.wordpress.org] on behalf of Rankin,
>>>>> Matthew
>>>>> W. (Student) [mrankin at my.ccsu.edu]
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 12:49 PM
>>>>>
>>>>> To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] splitting reviewers between queues
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll do my best to follow your lead Chip. I've just been so busy lately
>>>>> I
>>>>> haven't had time to do many reviews. But I should be able to fit in one
>>>>> theme a day.
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: theme-reviewers-bounces at lists.wordpress.org
>>>>> [theme-reviewers-bounces at lists.wordpress.org] on behalf of Chip Bennett
>>>>> [chip at chipbennett.net]
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 12:31 PM
>>>>> To: theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] splitting reviewers between queues
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think a paradigm shift is necessary (or helpful) at this point.
>>>>>
>>>>> The bottom line is: about 10 tickets per day are submitted. Thus, we
>>>>> need
>>>>> about 10 tickets per day reviewed and closed, in order to keep up with
>>>>> the
>>>>> submission rate. We are approaching 100 people who have reviewed
>>>>> Themes. If
>>>>> every person with ticket privileges reviewed two tickets, we would
>>>>> exhaust
>>>>> the current queue entirely.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've tried to push in the past to get reviewers to consider committing
>>>>> to
>>>>> a certain minimum level of participation, but as you've noted: it's not
>>>>> practical. We ARE all volunteers, and all have extremely busy
>>>>> schedules. (I
>>>>> last saw a "40-hour work week" sometime last summer.) Efforts to get
>>>>> such
>>>>> commitments inevitably have the opposite effect, as IMX they have only
>>>>> driven volunteers AWAY from contributing their time.
>>>>>
>>>>> That said: I'll do my best to lead by example. I will commit to
>>>>> reviewing
>>>>> one Theme per day, every day.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chip
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Edward Caissie
>>>>> <edward.caissie at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Although it shouldn't need to be written, but once again it appears a
>>>>>> reminder appears to be needed ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To the best of my knowledge, every member of the current Theme Review
>>>>>> Team is a volunteer. Every member also has a "full work load" with
>>>>>> many
>>>>>> simply unable to devote any time to this volunteer activity during
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> scheduled time. Many of the volunteers have other additional WordPress
>>>>>> related activities that add to their typical "40-hour week" work load.
>>>>>> We
>>>>>> all have lives, too ... so, quite simply, we give what time we can and
>>>>>> look
>>>>>> to the community to contribute some of their time. Wait times, as
>>>>>> noted many
>>>>>> times, are inversely proportional to the amount of volunteer reviewers
>>>>>> available to do the work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We can appreciate the wait time is long and frustrating. This is not
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> only time this topic has been discussed, these are not the only ideas
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> have been considered. Unfortunately until their is perhaps a paradigm
>>>>>> shift
>>>>>> in regards to the WPTRT we may simply be forced to continue to endure
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> forge ahead under these conditions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cais.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Bruce Wampler
>>>>>> <weavertheme at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like to add my perspective on the review process.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have been submitting one theme - with revisions and slight name
>>>>>>> modifications - for almost two years now - starting with 2010 Weaver,
>>>>>>> changed to simply Weaver, and now Weaver II.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Because Weaver II is a name change, and represents a total rewrite of
>>>>>>> Weaver, it has been in the Priority Queue for almost 3 months now.
>>>>>>> I've just
>>>>>>> been sitting here waiting my turn.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But seriously - three months for new themes? The past week, the
>>>>>>> review
>>>>>>> rate has been only one new theme reviewed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is important to keep existing themes up to date - but to
>>>>>>> essentially
>>>>>>> have the new theme approval rate one a week will do nothing to
>>>>>>> encourage
>>>>>>> authors to submit new themes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I had good reasons to change from Weaver to Weaver II, and perhaps
>>>>>>> should have requested it be treated as a revision of the existing
>>>>>>> approved
>>>>>>> theme. But I don know if I knew three months ago, that I likely would
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> done things differently, including the possibility of simply
>>>>>>> abandoning the
>>>>>>> WP theme repository.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But Weaver II represents a cutting edge theme/framework that has (or
>>>>>>> had three months ago) really new features, including what I think is
>>>>>>> likely
>>>>>>> the best mobile support of any WP theme. It is really frustrating to
>>>>>>> see it
>>>>>>> languish in the queue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just think a almost three month wait is excessive, and will
>>>>>>> seriously
>>>>>>> discourage developers from developing and submitting new themes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The discussion of new 3.4 features seems almost silly since if the
>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>> queue theme stays at several months, it is likely that there won't be
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>> new themes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I believe is really important to keep fresh, new themes with cutting
>>>>>>> edge features coming in for the future health of WordPress.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just some thoughts. I believe something needs to be done. I'd
>>>>>>> volunteer
>>>>>>> to review some themes, but I have serious ethical concerns about
>>>>>>> that, as
>>>>>>> well as a full work load supporting my theme which has become very
>>>>>>> popular
>>>>>>> on its own while waiting on the queue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bruce Wampler
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>> http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers
>>>>>>>
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