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needs to be checked including third-party plugins.
Emil
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On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:23 AM, Vicky Arulsingam <vicky.arulsingam at gmail.com
> wrote:
> The plugins cannot be turned off though the seo plugin's functionality can
> be limited by leaving the options blank.
>
> But the main issue I have with themes bundling plugins is that the theme
> author must take responsibility for making sure plugin packages are kept
> updated. What happens when they don't?
> Also by allowing this, wouldn't this mean that we're also going to be
> reviewing the plugins as well?
>
> Vicky
>
> On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Emil Uzelac <emil at themeid.com> wrote:
>
>> If the plugin is properly implemented there should be no problems. For
>> example Coraline Theme implemented Theme options based on a plugin, so it's
>> OK. Yoast Breadcrumbs are still current
>> http://yoast.com/wordpress/breadcrumbs/ and I am not sure about
>> http://themes.svn.wordpress.org/billions/1.1.2/core/plugins/seo-features.php.
>> Now there is one thing to pay attention to and that is if they can be
>> disabled (turned off) from i.e. Theme Options, just in case that user wants
>> to use something else. I am sure that breadcrumb will not cause issues,
>> however meta plugin could if the user installs any other SEO plugin. If one
>> is "hardcoded" and other one installed as "real" plugin from plugins they
>> could affect each other and or create double meta tags,
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Emil
>>
>>
>>
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<font color=3D"#333333"><font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"arial,helvetica,sans=
-serif">I haven't installed the Theme but you can see what happens to t=
he source after the Theme is activated. Is there any changes to meta tags? =
meaning does the plugin displays description in the source? if it does than=
it would "clash" with users installed SEO plugins since there is=
no option to turn it off completely.=A0</font></font></font><div>
<font color=3D"#333333"><font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"arial,helvetica,sans=
-serif"><br></font></font></font></div><div><font color=3D"#333333"><font s=
ize=3D"2"><font face=3D"arial,helvetica,sans-serif">For example StudioPress=
SEO plugin "sniffs" the code and checks if there are any other S=
EO plugins installed, if so their integrated SEO tags will allow other plug=
in to work and it will not be in use. If that is the case with this than it=
's all right.</font></font></font><div>
<font color=3D"#333333"><font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"arial,helvetica,sans=
-serif"><br></font></font></font></div><div><font color=3D"#333333"><font s=
ize=3D"2"><font face=3D"arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Just like the Theme it&=
#39;s up to author to keep their codes up to date. One thing for sure is th=
at this specific Theme was developed by a respective and well known author,=
I am very=A0positive=A0that all will be updated. =A0</font></font></font><=
/div>
<div><font color=3D"#333333"><font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"arial,helvetica=
,sans-serif"><br></font></font></font></div><div><font color=3D"#333333"><f=
ont size=3D"2"><font face=3D"arial,helvetica,sans-serif">From what I can se=
e this is the third review,=A0which=A0means that everything needs to be che=
cked including third-party plugins.</font></font></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#333333"><font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"arial,helvetica=
,sans-serif"><br></font></font></font></div><div><font color=3D"#333333"><f=
ont size=3D"2"><font face=3D"arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Emil</font></font>=
</font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#333333"><font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"arial,helvetica=
,sans-serif"><br clear=3D"all"></font></font></font><div><strong><font face=
=3D"arial, helvetica, sans-serif">----</font></strong></div><div><font face=
=3D"arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><strong>Emil Uzelac</strong> | ThemeID | =
T: 224-444-0006 | Twitter: @EmilUzelac | E: <a href=3D"mailto:emil at themeid.=
com" target=3D"_blank">emil at themeid.com</a> | <a href=3D"http://themeid.com=
/" target=3D"_blank">http://themeid.com</a></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#999999" face=3D"arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Make eve=
rything as simple as possible, but not simpler. - Albert Einstein</font></d=
iv><br>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:23 AM, Vicky Ar=
ulsingam <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:vicky.arulsingam at gmail.com=
">vicky.arulsingam at gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-=
left:1ex;">
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">The plugins cannot be turned off though the seo =
plugin's functionality can be limited by leaving the options blank.</di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote">But the m=
ain=A0issue I have with themes bundling plugins is that the theme author mu=
st take responsibility for making sure plugin packages are kept updated. Wh=
at happens when they don't?=A0</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">Also by allowing this, wouldn't this mean th=
at we're also going to be reviewing the plugins as well?</div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote"><br></div><font color=3D"#888888"><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">
Vicky</div></font><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">
<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Emil U=
zelac <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:emil at themeid.com" target=3D"_=
blank">emil at themeid.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><font color=3D"#333333"><font size=3D"2"><fo=
nt face=3D"arial,helvetica,sans-serif">If the plugin is properly implemente=
d there should be no problems. For example Coraline Theme implemented Theme=
options based on a plugin, so it's OK. Yoast Breadcrumbs are still cur=
rent=A0<a href=3D"http://yoast.com/wordpress/breadcrumbs/" target=3D"_blank=
">http://yoast.com/wordpress/breadcrumbs/</a> and I am not sure about=A0<a =
href=3D"http://themes.svn.wordpress.org/billions/1.1.2/core/plugins/seo-fea=
tures.php" target=3D"_blank">http://themes.svn.wordpress.org/billions/1.1.2=
/core/plugins/seo-features.php</a>. Now there is one thing to pay attention=
to and that is if they can be disabled (turned off) from i.e. Theme Option=
s, just in case that user wants to use something else. I am sure that bread=
crumb will not cause issues, however meta plugin could if the user installs=
any other SEO plugin. If one is "hardcoded" and other one instal=
led as "real" plugin from plugins they could affect=A0each other =
and or create double meta tags,</font></font></font><div>
<font color=3D"#333333" face=3D"arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></=
div><div><font color=3D"#333333"><font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"arial,helve=
tica,sans-serif"></font></font></font><font color=3D"#333333" face=3D"arial=
, helvetica, sans-serif">Cheers,</font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#333333" face=3D"arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Emil<br>=
</font><div><font color=3D"#333333"><font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"arial,he=
lvetica,sans-serif"><br></font></font></font></div><div><font color=3D"#333=
333" face=3D"arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br>
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