[theme-reviewers] Discussion

[Philip M. Hofer (Frumph)]

I instantly closed it again because I will not tolerate being berated, in 
any form.;  The responses indicated that the theme's author did not willing 
want to discuss.

Until then, I also ask that since you do not have the capacity to 'instruct' 
and 'communicate' that you do not forcefully, yes, forcefully require that 
of others.

- Phil


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Otto" <otto at ottodestruct.com>
To: <theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 8:50 AM
Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Discussion


Look at it from a theme author's point of view. You've already
reviewed it. It's marked "not-accepted" and "closed".

That doesn't suggest some form of "finality" to you?

So what does the theme author do? He reopens it and adds comments.
This is the way things happen in the core trac, after all. People
reopen it when they begin discussing it or have more to add.

You going and instantly closing it again, summarily rejecting his
points by giving some link to a document somewhere else... well, that
doesn't leave a really good taste in his mouth, does it? It doesn't
show that anybody is listening, or cares, or wants to help. It's just
rejection, absolute and final.

Of course they're going to get angry and upset when being treated like that.

-Otto



On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph)
<philip at frumph.net> wrote:
> That is incorrect.
>
> Take in point the trac.core the core trac system, if the bug reporter does
> not like the end result, they can communicate their concerns and it is 
> read,
> especially as I have seen by kick-ass Nacin.
>
> We are aware of the notes that people make on closed tickets and even more
> so now that the trac system is emailing us FINALLY.
>
> - Phil
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Otto" <otto at ottodestruct.com>
> To: <theme-reviewers at lists.wordpress.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 8:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Discussion
>
>
>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Chip Bennett <chip at chipbennett.net>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Only you are claiming that the Theme reviewers don't want to have a
>>> discussion with the Theme author - due, presumably, to your incorrect
>>> association with a closed review ticket and absolute rejection of a 
>>> Theme
>>> and its developer. Perhaps if you disabused yourself of this incorrect
>>> notion, you wouldn't be so up-in-arms?
>>
>> I reject your assertion that the notion is incorrect. A closed ticket
>> is in a final state. Discussion is complete. There's no incentive for
>> anybody to look at the ticket again, so commenting on a closed ticket
>> is a waste of time.
>>
>> This is standard trac practice, everywhere.
>>
>>> So, your primary complaint seems to be that the ticket gets closed with
>>> the
>>> review is complete. Is that it?
>>
>> My primary complaint is that no discussion takes place, nor do the
>> theme reviewers seem to want to have a discussion.
>>
>> And yes, that's because they closed the ticket.
>>
>> -Otto
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