[wp-hackers] Plugin Framework

[Stephen O'Connor]

The framework has to override plugins.php. The only change I made was adding
four lines of code to check for framework-compatible plugin and link to the
framework if true. Instead of saying "Activate" or "Deactivate", it will
read "Advanced".

-----Original Message-----
From: hackers-bounces at wordpress.org
[mailto:hackers-bounces at wordpress.org]On Behalf Of Jason goldsmith
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 11:27 AM
To: hackers at wordpress.org
Subject: Re: [wp-hackers] Plugin Framework


Your plugin framework appears to overwrite the WordPress plugins.php.....

In regards to #1 - a configuration handler in the plugin framework
could use the options database, it doesn't really matter where the
configuration is stored, it would just be nice to have an easy way to
work with it.

On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 03:46:56 -0400, Stephen O'Connor
<steve at stevarino.com> wrote:
>
> Sadly, you are right. It is "geared towards evil nasty database and/or
file
> modifying plugins". In my next version the file-editing specific features
> will be gone. A plugin-author could still code a file-editing plugin but
the
> framework will no longer cater to them.
>
> But some plugins need to edit database tables or files. Think of the
> convenience a plugin would have if it automatically updated your .htaccess
> file, for example.
>
> As far as helping plugin writers work with the APIs, I'm not exactly sure
> what you mean. If you mean the plugin APIs, then I honestly don't see any
> room for improvement on my end. :(
>
> Okay, and your improvement requests:
>
> 1) [config-handler] Why would you want configuration files? You know
there's
> a perfectly good MySQL database handy - just import the $wpdb object (they
> even set up an appendable "options" table). Besides, any config files may
> contain sensitive info which might be a security risk.
> 2) [plugin-gui] The gui front end is already in place, it was an original
> goal of the project. Simply define a method main() for the plugin, and
that
> method will be executed in a wp-admin page after plugin installation.
> 3) [extra admin objects via DOM] I really like this idea. Any utility
which
> assists here will certainly restrict the plugin author's freedom, but I
> think they might appreciate the convenience. If not they could just code
> their own and not use the framework's. ;)
>
> One interesting side effect of this framework is the title "plugin"
doesn't
> adequately describe some of them. By simply defining a gui with some
> back-end coding and not letting any code be included by WP, it's possible
to
> create WordPress "applications" or "executables". I've created several
small
> utility programs for tasks like database viewing/editing and plugin
> troubleshooting.
>
> - Stephen
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hackers-bounces at wordpress.org
> [mailto:hackers-bounces at wordpress.org]On Behalf Of Jason goldsmith
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 2:12 AM
> To: hackers at wordpress.org
> Subject: Re: [wp-hackers] Plugin Framework
>
> It looks ok, but it seems like it is geared towards evil nasty
> database and/or file modifying plugins. I'd prefer to see a plugin
> framework that helped plugin writers work with the existing APIs.
>
> Three things I would need to see in a framework to make it worthwhile to
me
> are
>
> 1) Configuration handler, so I can easily create config files for
> plugins and work with them
> 2) A GUI front end for configuration files (probably showing up as a
> link reading "Configure" in the plugin admin interface plugin
> description field
> 3) Utility functions that help hack around the places where the WP API
> is weak like inserting GUI elements into the post.php screen via
> JavaScript and the DOM.
>
> I can help with #3 now, at least by providing some hax0red code that I
> have. It ins't perfect, but it isn't terrible. I have to deal with #1
> and #2 in the next few weeks, so I will probably have some code for
> those as well that you can start with if you are interested.
>
> On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 03:02:25 -0400, Stephen O'Connor
> <steve at stevarino.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Oh, you too? That'll teach me not to announce things :(
> >
> > Haha! I would be interested in comparing code and techniques. Maybe we
> could
> > learn something?
> >
> > - Stephen
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: hackers-bounces at wordpress.org
> > [mailto:hackers-bounces at wordpress.org]On Behalf Of Kitty
> > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 2:59 AM
> > To: hackers at wordpress.org
> > Subject: Re: [wp-hackers] Plugin Framework
> >
> > Oh, you too? That'll teach me not to announce things :(
> >
> > On Thu, 2004-06-17 at 23:37, Stephen O'Connor wrote:
> > > Hey!
> > >
> > > Made a plugin framework.
> > --
> > Kitty <kitty at mookitty.co.uk>
> > http://mookitty.co.uk/devblog/
> >
> >
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