[wp-trac] [WordPress Trac] #12542: Fix title and h1 elements for Twenty Ten theme

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#12542: Fix title and h1 elements for Twenty Ten theme
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 Reporter:  mikeschinkel  |        Owner:  iammattthomas
     Type:  defect (bug)  |       Status:  reopened     
 Priority:  normal        |    Milestone:  3.0          
Component:  Themes        |      Version:  3.0          
 Severity:  normal        |   Resolution:               
 Keywords:  has-patch     |  
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Comment(by mikeschinkel):

 Replying to [comment:14 iandstewart]:
 > My hunch is that most users who use the static front page will title
 their home page "Welome to my awesome site about hamsters" or something
 similar. And would be very surprised if this one page did not behave
 exactly like the 50 other pages they've created (about rats, gerbils, and
 what have you) that displayed the title they carefully crafted.

 But that's just a hunch from someone who uses WordPress, right?  So we
 have dueling hunches?

 Actually, I have a lot exposure to a lot of people who want to use
 WordPress for things other than blogging. I hosted a workshop[1] in Feb
 2009 and a panel presentation/discussion[2] in March 2010 and was paid to
 deliver a 3 day training course for the Georgia Tech Enterprise Innovation
 Institute where they wanted to use WordPress as the basis of all sites
 they would support across their departments (their vice provost actually
 attended my Feb 2009 workshop.)

 Because of my role in the meetup group and because we focus a fair amount
 on WordPress I get constantly asked question by many different people. I
 actually spoke to the Atlanta WordPress meetup group on an ad-hoc "What's
 in 3.0" to an audience of about 40 people. I mentioned this problem and
 had many in the audience agree with me. They asked me why themes do it the
 way they do.

 So I actually have a few more data points than just my personal hunches.

 > My feeling is that the power users and theme tweakers who edit Twenty
 Ten to craft a new site theme for themselves can simply add this to the
 list of other edits they make. And of the other concurrent edits I imagine
 them making it would certainly be the simplest; deleting 1 line in
 page.php or .home .entry-title {display:none;} in a stylesheet (or with
 absolute positioning—there may even be an SEO benefit there).

 Here's my thought: '''''Editing themes is bad''''' (if it can be avoided.)
 You edit a theme, you own it; no upgrades for you mister!

 With this one change (actually there are a few others, but less
 significant) I could use TwentyTen as the basis of a lot of sites via
 child themes that mostly just contain a style.css and functions.php.
 Without this change (or some way to override it would copying and
 modifying important templates), I cannot.

 The front page (in WordPress terminology) is the equivalent to the site
 name.  Having a page title there also is redundant and unhelpful and makes
 any site that uses it the way you suggest look like amateur hour.

 [1] http://www.meetup.com/atlantawebmarketers/calendar/9711037/

 [2] http://www.meetup.com/atlantawebmarketers/calendar/11954596/

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