[wp-hackers] "commenter" user role
john.wp at onolan.org
Sat Mar 6 13:20:08 UTC 2010
I'm sorry, didn't you just say:
"Seems weird behavior to me, but maybe I just don't understand the
But now you're giving multiple examples in context for the rationale?
You either understand it or you don't. Don't call the issues that I
raise "weird" and then go on to raise the exact same issues yourself.
"Let's say I ran a company in the past and left a lot of comments
using my gmail address but with my prior company's URL. Now I've sold
that company and started a new one; should the links on the old posts
all change to be for my new URL?"
This is completely irrelevant. In this case you would be abusing the
Wordpress comment form, and if the wrong company name showed up at
some point then that's your own fault.
The form does not say "Hey what company do you work for?" or "Hey
please spam us cause you think it has SEO value" it says "Name" -
like, your name - not that hard to understand.
We should not be catering to the issues of spammers. Yes, I'm sure
there are a few legitimate cases where one might leave a company name
in the "name" field, but we both know that 99% of the time it's done
by spammers, not real people.
On 6 Mar 2010, at 02:07, Mike Schinkel wrote:
> On Mar 5, 2010, at 8:37 PM, John O'Nolan wrote:
>> It's not an important consideration so much as an annoyance /
>> inconvenience. I hate system emails at the best of times - and the
>> one mentioned would just be a pain.
> That's cool.
>> Is there a reason why we couldn't just write the name to the DB
>> once, and then ignore the "name" field in the future if the email
>> address already exists in the DB?
> Because the first time could have been a typo?
> On another note, I worry about context. Let's say I ran a company
> in the past and left a lot of comments using my gmail address but
> with my prior company's URL. Now I've sold that company and started
> a new one; should the links on the old posts all change to be for my
> new URL? Maybe not, that would change the context of some of those
> Even more significant, what if someone wants to use the same gmail
> address but use different names and different URLs for different
> sites; i.e. for educational credentials someone comments on post in
> their field of study they might want to add "PhD" but when
> commenting on a post about sports them might not want to appear
> pompous so they don't include "PhD." Also, they would include a URL
> to their business site in the first and a URL to their personal blog
> about sports in the second case. I think name and URL really need
> to be captured for each comment.
> That said, let's explore the following. If we have a user account
> keyed on email address where all our comments could roll up then it
> would be possible to allow a user to maintain their own WordPress
> site that could aggregate all their comments from all different
> sites and even be able to update name and URL for all comments (with
> approval from each site admin, of course.) This would provide a
> sort of distributed Disqus/IntenseDebate functionality but built
> into WordPress. That would be fun to architect, but would only
> catch on if built into core. FWIW.
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