[wp-hackers] 2.8 plugins page
les at lcb.me.uk
Tue May 12 18:00:46 GMT 2009
Agreed on one page rather than split every 20 plugins
Links that appear on mouseover only strike me as a really bad idea -
the interface needs to be intuitive, and when I saw that, I thought
something was broken...
I see that inactive plugins now appear below active ones, but without
the clear separation we have in 2.7. Personally, I though the split of
active / recently active / inactive was a significant step forwards,
and it would be a shame to lose it.
Les Bessant les at lcb.me.uk
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On 12 May 2009, at 16:43, Stephen Rider wrote:
> Hi all --
> I wanted to discuss the changes to the Plugins page for WP 2.8.
> * First, I definitely prefer to have all plugins on one long page
> rather than splitting them every 20 plugins. It's just a lot more
> clicking around to find what I want now. Plus, with one long page,
> I can (in Firefox) just type the plugin name and jump right to it --
> not so if the plugin I want is on the next page....
> * Second, why are we now only showing the Action links on
> mouseover? This one in particular looks like change for change's
> sake. ***How does this improve usability??***
> I think this was a mistake especially as more and more plugin
> authors are putting in links to the Settings page in the Action
> links. (A trend I myself have championed, responding to the
> frequent complaint that it was hard to figure out where a plugin's
> configuration was located in the menus.)
> (One more point about this one -- changing the number of columns in
> the Plugins list messes up any existing plugins that were using the
> "after row" hook. If there's strong reason to do it, so be it --
> but don't do it on a whim!)
> Please reconsider the mouseover Action links. Just make them visible.
> * Third -- I am... ambivalent... about re-combining the active and
> inactive plugins. No personal preference, except I don't like the
> indecisiveness -- they were together, then we separated them, and
> now we're combining them again. If we're bouncing back and forth it
> sounds as though we don't have a strong reason for either, so maybe
> just leave it alone?
> Overall, I guess I'm against arbitrary interface changes without
> strong reason for the change. I'm not talking minor stuff like CSS
> colors, but structural changes. With a system like WordPress that
> so strongly encourages customization via plugin, we should be very
> careful not to keep stirring things around and undermining those
> same plugins on a whim.
> Of course it's a case of where to draw the line -- you don't want to
> eliminate any changes or the program will stagnate, but when making
> a change, we must ask "What is the reason for this?" -- and if the
> answer is "I just like it better", tread carefully. Compatibility
> is important.
> Stephen Rider
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