[wp-hackers] Re: [wp-pro] Discussion: 'Acceptable' and 'Unacceptable' Posting Behavior On This List

Mike Schinkel mikeschinkel at newclarity.net
Sun Jun 28 22:03:07 GMT 2009


> There seems to be a need for an email list that offers support to  
> WordPress users, and where people can ask WP questions and get  
> answers. I know there are the forums, but forums aren't for  
> everybody. I personally am not a fan of forums, while I do find that  
> the various email lists that I'm on offer a lot of value. A great  
> example is the WordPress Israel Google Group (http://groups.google.com/group/wpheb 
> ). It's in Hebrew which obviously limits the audience, but the  
> activity there is incredibly helpful and I always feel like it's a  
> shame a similar group doesn't exist in English.

I strongly agree.  +1.

-Mike Schinkel
WordPress Custom Plugins
http://mikeschinkel.com/custom-wordpress-plugins/



On Jun 28, 2009, at 7:50 AM, Miriam Schwab wrote:

> I hope I don't get flamed for suggesting this, but I've been  
> thinking about this issue for a while. There seems to be a need for  
> an email list that offers support to WordPress users, and where  
> people can ask WP questions and get answers. I know there are the  
> forums, but forums aren't for everybody. I personally am not a fan  
> of forums, while I do find that the various email lists that I'm on  
> offer a lot of value. A great example is the WordPress Israel Google  
> Group (http://groups.google.com/group/wpheb). It's in Hebrew which  
> obviously limits the audience, but the activity there is incredibly  
> helpful and I always feel like it's a shame a similar group doesn't  
> exist in English.
>
> So...ages ago I set up the following Yahoo Group: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/wpgarage/ 
>  (named after my WordPress Garage blog). It has a whopping two  
> members and no activity because I never did anything with it. But  
> maybe it can become a worthwhile resource, and also a place to send  
> all the people who end up here with WP development questions.
>
> Or not. Whatever you guys think. But if some of you want to join and  
> see how it goes, it would be great to have you :)
>
> Miriam
>
> --------------------------------------
> Miriam Schwab
> illuminea marketing & media | www.illuminea.com
> http://wordpressgarage.com
> mschwab at illuminea.com
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 2:46 AM, Made of These Studio <made.of.these at gmail.com 
> > wrote:
> Hey everyone,
>
> This might not be the right place to post this message to start a  
> discussion, but I couldn't figure of a better/more likely place to  
> start it.
>
> So please, if I posted in the wrong place and there's a better  
> place, PLEASE let me know and direct me there.  My intention is to  
> start a discussion and get things cleared up and confirmed for both  
> the older WP pro vets here and the newer incoming people.
>
> After the more recent rash of people posting to the list asking for  
> nonpaid help (and help that one can/should get in the forums):
>
> The question for discussion is:
>
> What IS and IS NOT acceptable/supported posting behavior to this list?
>
> What are the guidelines for signatures in posts (if there are even  
> guidelines to begin with)?
>
> What SORTS of posts are okay and what are not?
>
> Both answers seem to be pretty obvious (to me, anyways), but maybe  
> we could all use a one-shot clarification after all the non-wp pro  
> postings we've gotten lately.
>
> In regards to ideas about deterring the off-topic posters from  
> posting to this list or blacklisting them, maybe there really needs  
> to be more steps involved in the signing up process for this list  
> which includes a general overview on what is and isn't accepted on  
> this list.  Currently as far as I know, the sign-up process for this  
> list has no such thing.  If there's a general overview guidelines  
> thing pre-signup, then we on the list can politely point misdirected  
> users to the overview notice and then to the support forum and if  
> said person(s) don't want to 'follow the rules' then it will be  
> easier for us as whole to guide them out of the list.
>
> Also, another issue that might be contributing to our influx of  
> misdirected users is that I know that there are people on both  
> the .org and .com WP support forums who have pointed users to our  
> mailing list without explaining that the list is specifically to  
> seek out WP pros to HIRE with compensation.
>
> If users who have been misinformed by other users or a simple lack  
> of appropriate information are sent our way and we direct them back/ 
> elsewhere/send them packing, that's also a poor reflection on the WP  
> community as a whole in my opinion (but it just might be my own  
> personal opinion).
>
> So... yeah.
>
> What does everyone think?
>
> Right place or wrong place to discuss this?
>
> Anyone have other ideas or suggestions for tackling this issue?
>
> Did I just make a fool of myself? ;)
>
> J/K... sort of.
>
> Hope everyone's having a great Friday!
>
> ~ Valen
>
>
>
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