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There should be no tracking code on / off or anything in themes. To
me that's a very binary decision without any variation.<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
Tammie Lister<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 16/10/2014 20:59, Dovy Paukstys
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<div dir="ltr">Just to clarify, can the tracking code remain, but
be disabled if I supply WordPress.org theme developers the code
to ensure it never runs.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Emil
Uzelac <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:emil@uzelac.me" target="_blank">emil@uzelac.me</a>></span>
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style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Whatever
you can do to remove the trackers all along would be
great and highly appreciated. I am here to help out as
much as I know and can :)</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 2:54 PM,
Dovy Paukstys <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<div dir="ltr">Emil:<br>
I do have a hook I can supply to remove the tracking
as well. Would that suffice if we put it in the
documentation primarily for the WP.org themes?</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at
1:52 PM, Emil Uzelac <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">If
you are referring to plugins, sorry bud
that's beyond theme review reach, you
will have to take that with them :)</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct
16, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Dovy Paukstys <span
dir="ltr"><<a
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href="mailto:dovy@reduxframework.com"
target="_blank">dovy@reduxframework.com</a>></span>
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<div dir="ltr">Emil:<br>
Then can I request that Yoast
has the same process be given to
them? I'm all for fairness here
and I would never do anything
that I didn't see another market
player doing.<br>
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Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:47
PM, Emil Uzelac <span
dir="ltr"><<a
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href="mailto:emil@uzelac.me" target="_blank">emil@uzelac.me</a>></span>
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<div
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style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">We don't want trackers
period! So far I had
to suspend about 10
themes and there is
bunch more. Not cool
at all :(</div>
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class="gmail_extra"><br>
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class="gmail_quote">On
Thu, Oct 16,
2014 at 2:44 PM,
Dovy Paukstys <span
dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:dovy@reduxframework.com"
target="_blank">dovy@reduxframework.com</a>></span>
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<div dir="ltr">@Tammie
Lister Indeed.
We want to be
completely
transparent.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>We do
opt-in
tracking to
discover any
issues we may
have with
various
plugins and
setup as we're
integrated to
themes and
plugins. That
is open and
wide for
anyone to see.
We do this
because we
don't want
people to
think we're
"stealing"
anything that
pinpoints
them, and also
lets users see
what they're
up against
when
developing.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The sites
are completely
anonymous.
There's no way
for us to
track it to
any individual
site at all.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>We took
direction for
our tracking
class from the
quite widely
used WordPress
SEO by Yoast
plugin.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The class
does the
following:</div>
<div>
<ul>
<li>Checks
once a week
and submits to
our tracking
service using
a unique
one-way hash.</li>
</ul>
</div>
<div>That's
it. Then we
compare our
user base vs
what we're
coding about.
When we see a
user post
about an
inconsistency
with a theme
or plugin, we
inspect more
heavily if
there is more
widely used.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>If users
wish, they can
also load
their own
"hash" in
their theme to
see a
drill-down of
their theme's
data. All that
does is add an
extra
developer key,
and allow us
to filter the
results.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>@Srikanth
Koneru We did
not update to
WordPress.com
since I didn't
think
WordPress.com
allows
frameworks and
we do not have
access. If
WP.com DOES
allow Redux,
then man I
need to redo
my
WordPress.com
themes I am
building!</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>@<span
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907349px;white-space:nowrap">Emil
Uzelac</span><span
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907349px;white-space:nowrap"> </span><span
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907349px;white-space:nowrap">Would
you prefer us
to not visibly
show the
tracking data?
We use it show
statistics and
most used
plugins that
utilize Redux.</span></div>
</div>
<div><span
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907349px;white-space:nowrap"><br>
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<div><span
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907349px;white-space:nowrap">@</span><font
face="arial,
sans-serif"><span
style="white-space:nowrap">Afzaal (ThinkUpThemes) Is the concern that
we're tracking
the issue or
that we're
showing
it publicly?
This is
COMPLETELY anonymous.
If it's a
concern, we
can remove
that
site instantly.
We'll just put
it behind our
developer's
login wall
instead.</span></font></div>
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face="arial,
sans-serif"><span
style="white-space:nowrap"><br>
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<div><font
face="arial,
sans-serif"><span
style="white-space:nowrap">@everyone Again all, we are completely
transparent
here and we're
not doing
anything
different than
one of the
most
successful
plugins on
WordPress.org
does, except
that we're
showing the
data to be
transparent.</span></font></div>
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class="gmail_quote">On
Thu, Oct 16,
2014 at 1:30
PM, Tammie
Lister <span
dir="ltr"><<a
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target="_blank">karmatosed@gmail.com</a>></span>
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text="#000000"
bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> So Dovy, can you explain this also:<br>
<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://jsbin.com/ugELElU/1" target="_blank">http://jsbin.com/ugELElU/1</a><br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Tammie
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16/10/2014
20:28, Dovy
Paukstys
wrote:<br>
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type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">@Otto
+ Others:
<div>Lead
developer of
Redux
Framework
here.</div>
<div><br>
In regards to
Redux
Framework,
there was
indeed an
error in our
code causing
some instances
to dial-back
even when set
to opt-out.
This was not
our intent or
desire to
"dial-home".
It was a
mistake in
coding between
JS and PHP.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>A patch
has been made
and new
version of
Redux has been
deployed to
WP.com and our
repository.
Everything
should now fit
well within
your
requirements.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Redux
aims to always
follow the
guidelines. If
you find any
issue in the
future, do not
hesitate to
contact me
directly at <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:dovy@reduxframework.com"
target="_blank">dovy@reduxframework.com</a>.
I am now also
on this list
and will watch
for any issues
that may come
up.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
<div>In our
next
newsletter I
will also urge
developers to
update to the
newest version
of Redux
especially for
WP.com themes.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thank
you.</div>
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class="gmail_quote">On
Thu, Oct 16,
2014 at 1:22
PM, Towfiq I.
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<div dir="ltr">Before
suspending, I
request you to
warn the
developers
about this in
the review
ticket. Many
of the
developers
doesn't even
know about
this. One of
my themes uses
redux and I
noticed the
tracking.php
file while
developing and
removed it.
Maybe they
should have a
chance to do
that too.<br>
<br>
Just my two
cents</div>
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class="gmail_quote">On
Fri, Oct 17,
2014 at 12:29
AM, Emil
Uzelac <span
dir="ltr"><<a
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<div
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style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I'll see if I can find
them all in
trac.</div>
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<div>On Thu,
Oct 16, 2014
at 1:17 PM,
Otto <span
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target="_blank">otto@ottodestruct.com</a>></span>
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<div dir="ltr">The
hell?
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<div>The
answer is a
very clear cut
no, you can't
do that. If
any themes in
the directory
currently have
this, they
should be
immediately
suspended.</div>
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color="#888888">
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<div>-Otto</div>
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Thu, Oct 16,
2014 at 1:09
PM, Emil
Uzelac <span
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<div
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Not
to mention
that what they
done here,
well sucks: <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://jsbin.com/ugELElU/1" target="_blank">http://jsbin.com/ugELElU/1</a>.
Redux is
revealing more
than they
should!</div>
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