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    David, your theme has had a new version uploaded. It is now marked
    as such and the reviewer attached to your new theme. No need for any
    haircuts or this thread to go on anymore.<br>
    <br>
    How about we all work together rather than creating long threads? If
    something needs talking about in the ticket, lets do that. If
    someone thinks there is a better way to work, great we can always
    refine. We are all human, we all need to improve us and our
    processes. Anyone is welcome to come to the chat tomorrow and talk
    about how the process could be better. Anyone can talk about that at
    any time.<br>
    <br>
    What I think isn't great is creating this long thread like this in
    the tone it has devolved into in places. Lets all remember we are in
    this together. Lets remember there are humans at the end of the
    computers.<br>
    <br>
    Now lets all get on with being awesome - sound like a good plan?<br>
    <br>
    Thanks<br>
    Tammie<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 13/10/2014 22:23, David Chandra
      wrote:<br>
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            <div>@ Srikanth Koneru:<br>
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            I'm not a theme reviewer and i don't really understand theme
            review workflow.<br>
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          But it seems like a good plan.<br>
          <br>
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        <div>the reviewer to my theme actually reopen the ticket and it
          is kicked back to original reviewer.<br>
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        <div>I'm perfectly fine with that.<br>
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        <div>But, in my understanding, the theme reviewer who review my
          theme update<br>
          and give suggestion about screenshot, already reviewing the
          update.<br>
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        <div>(that's why the reviewer reopen and give suggestion to the
          theme, right)<br>
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        <div><br>
          Maybe if I just update the screenshot and put several inline
          docs, it will get approved and go live.<br>
          I can see that this can be frustrating to theme author.<br>
          <br>
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        <div>David.<br>
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        <div>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote"><i>Maybe I just need a hair
              cut. Do you think i need a haircut?</i><br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 4:08 AM,
          Srikanth Koneru <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:tskk79@gmail.com" target="_blank">tskk79@gmail.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div dir="ltr">Maybe we should not reopen tickets unless its
              license and/or security issue, small issues even a few can
              easily fixed downstream. Reopening will only add to
              reviewer workload, it will be kicked back to original
              reviewer and if that reviewer is missing, it will only add
              to theme author's frustration.<br>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 2:29
                    AM, David Chandra <span dir="ltr"><<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:david@shellcreeper.com"
                        target="_blank">david@shellcreeper.com</a>></span>
                    wrote:<br>
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                                <div>Thank you Tammie,<br>
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                                I understand that the recommendation by
                                the theme reviewer is for the best.<br>
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                              I do understand that personal/professional
                              knowledge vs theme guidelines can
                              sometimes in a blurry line.<br>
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                            once i got a reviewer said:<br>
                            It's required for all functions in
                            functions.php to have function_exist check.<br>
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                              <div>(which is not even in guidelines)<br>
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                              <div>I wish to theme reviewer to better
                                understand the guidelines.<br>
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                              <div>so they can better inform to theme
                                author about their theme,<br>
                                which are "recommended" which are
                                "required" and maybe their personal<br>
                                "opinion" and/or "suggestion" to make
                                the theme better.<br>
                                <br>
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                              <div>Of course, the theme authors can
                                receive their suggestion in better
                                perspective.<span><br>
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                                <div>-- David.<br>
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                            <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 14,
                              2014 at 3:32 AM, Tammie Lister <span
                                dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:karmatosed@gmail.com"
                                  target="_blank">karmatosed@gmail.com</a>></span>
                              wrote:<br>
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                                <div> Nobody is trying to single you
                                  out, nobody is making an example of
                                  you, nobody is witch hunting anyone.
                                  Everyone just wants to make your theme
                                  the best it can be and work with you
                                  to get your theme live. Just consider
                                  this when interacting and don't assume
                                  someone's actions. Asking and having
                                  an open discussion with a person
                                  always works better.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Thanks<br>
                                  Tammie
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                                      <br>
                                      <div>On 13/10/2014 21:09, David
                                        Chandra wrote:<br>
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                                                        <div>Thank you
                                                          Justin.<br>
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                                                        and I'm sorry to
                                                        all if my
                                                        comment about
                                                        "witch hunt
                                                        target" is a too
                                                        "strong".<br>
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                                                      I didn't mean it
                                                      that way. I'm
                                                      truly understand
                                                      what the reviewer
                                                      suggested is good.
                                                      very good.<br>
                                                      <br>
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                                                    I responded that way
                                                    because i feel,
                                                    maybe as example:<br>
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                                                  <br>
                                                  I want to create a
                                                  passport, and I
                                                  completed all the
                                                  legal document, <br>
                                                  and finally after
                                                  hours and hours of
                                                  waiting in line I take
                                                  photo shoot,<br>
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                                                and all I need is to
                                                wait for the passport.<br>
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                                              But suddenly they said
                                              that<br>
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                                            "Sir, you need to cut your
                                            hair, i think your passport
                                            photo will look better"<br>
                                            and i respond: "No thanks, I
                                            think i look fine."<br>
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                                          and they respond "Are you sure
                                          you want to look like this in
                                          your photo? You need to cut
                                          your hair. Your photo is going
                                          to be there for 5 years."<br>
                                          <br>
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                                                  <div>of course my
                                                    respond would be
                                                    "what the..." i need
                                                    to clarify about the
                                                    passport
                                                    registration
                                                    procedure.<br>
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                                                  <div><br>
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                                                  <div>-- David.<br>
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                                          <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                            Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 2:53
                                            AM, Justin Tadlock <span
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                                            wrote:<br>
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                                                        <p dir="ltr">do
                                                          theme reviewer
                                                          now start to
                                                          not approving
                                                          themes because
                                                          not doing the
                                                          recomended
                                                          even already
                                                          do all
                                                          required in
                                                          guidelines?</p>
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                                                    </span>
                                                    <div>Recommended
                                                      guidelines are
                                                      only recommended. 
                                                      It's often a good
                                                      idea to do them,
                                                      but you are not
                                                      required to do
                                                      so. </div>
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                                                      <blockquote
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                                                        <p dir="ltr">if
                                                          the theme
                                                          already pass
                                                          all the
                                                          required in
                                                          the guidelines
                                                          do theme
                                                          reviewer need
                                                          to make theme
                                                          author to do
                                                          extra
                                                          recommended
                                                          guide?</p>
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                                                    </span>
                                                    <div>It'd be great
                                                      if reviewers would
                                                      mention these
                                                      things, but
                                                      there's no reason
                                                      a reviewer should
                                                      hold a theme back
                                                      from being
                                                      approved for
                                                      things marked
                                                      recommended.</div>
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div>Also, not all
                                                      guidelines that
                                                      are recommended
                                                      are good for every
                                                      theme.  For
                                                      example, the
                                                      custom background
                                                      feature is a
                                                      recommended
                                                      feature, but it
                                                      doesn't make sense
                                                      to use that
                                                      feature in all
                                                      themes.  In fact,
                                                      it can be a
                                                      downright horrible
                                                      feature to use
                                                      with some theme
                                                      designs. 
                                                      Basically,
                                                      recommended items
                                                      are things we want
                                                      you to be aware
                                                      of.  We want you
                                                      to think about
                                                      whether these
                                                      additions would be
                                                      a good thing for
                                                      your theme.</div>
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