<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">Reference: <a href="https://themes.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/20784">https://themes.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/20784</a><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"> Now, if you want to keep the name, add a description instead of II and let's move on.<br>Otto mentioned "Responsive Grid" or "Responsive Whatever Description"</blockquote><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">@emil @otto</div><div class="gmail_extra">So, to clarify, can I release my new themes with any of these names now:</div><div class="gmail_extra">Responsively</div><div class="gmail_extra">Responsivity</div><div class="gmail_extra">Responsive Grand</div><div class="gmail_extra">Responsive Layout</div><div class="gmail_extra">Responsive Grid</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Unless cyberchimp legally trademarks 'Responsive', and since <a href="http://wordpress.org">wordpress.org</a> now allows it, I guess I am clear to use these theme names?</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Just wanted to clarify before I pick any of these names for my new theme.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">thanks,</div><div class="gmail_extra">Tina</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>It’s important now to respect the group mail and avoid trolling at this
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<div>What we be will be.</div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="t4324acharya@gmail.com" href="mailto:t4324acharya@gmail.com" target="_blank">Tina Ach</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 28, 2014 6:46 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org" href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org" target="_blank">Discussion list for WordPress
theme reviewers.</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [theme-reviewers] Why can't theme authors have a second
version of a theme?</div></div></div>
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<blockquote style="border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">David Chandra <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:david@shellcreeper.com" target="_blank">david@shellcreeper.com</a>></span> wrote:
<p dir="ltr">and don't worry if anyone else decide to submit the name
"Responsive Mobile". I got several other name:<br>"Responsive Z", "Responsive
XYZ", or maybe "Responsive 101".</p></blockquote></div>
<div class="gmail_extra">@david, Let team up together, call ourselves
"InternetMonkeys", and start releasing themes like Responze and Responsivity.
Since clearly we are "allowed" to do that, and we wont be breaking any
rules.</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">I am sure Trent will again spark a 100 email long
discussion, yelling that our themes be removed from the repository...
Lol!!</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Tina :)</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">Tina Ach <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:t4324acharya@gmail.com" target="_blank">t4324acharya@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Coming down to the actual naming issue, there is a reason why this rule
exists. Even if you are the only one allowed to use the name "Responsive
WHATEVER", I can still come up with a bunch of names that will skirt around
this rule.</div>
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<div>Responsivity</div>
<div>Responsively</div>
<div>Responze</div>
<div>Responsivulous</div>
<div>Responsorama</div>
<div>Responsorati</div>
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<div>None of these names fringe your "assumed" trademark. Who decides where to
draw a line here?</div>
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<div>Can of worms? Yes, indeed......</div>
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<div>And just to be clear, NO-ONE, I repeat, NO-ONE is policing your "right to
name your theme". Name it Responsive-2 , AS LONG AS ITS NOT HOSTED ON <a href="http://WORDPRESS.ORG" target="_blank">WORDPRESS.ORG</a></div>
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<div>You have the right and the freedom to name it ANYTHING, but we as a
community have the right to allow/disallow whats done on <a href="http://wordpress.org" target="_blank">wordpress.org</a> (+1 to Bryan for
mentioning that). And yes, the admins here have been given the right to make
decisions based on what THEY think is best for the community. They listen to
the community and make (and often change) rules for what goes and what
doesnt.</div>
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<blockquote style="border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Trent Lapinski <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:trent@cyberchimps.com" target="_blank">trent@cyberchimps.com</a>></span> wrote: </blockquote>
<blockquote style="border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Apple, Samsung, Microsoft, and dozens of Fortune 500
companies use names and numbers for products. Salesforce's latest
development platform is called Salesforce1.</blockquote>
<div>Yes, and you cal call it Responsive 2, as long as you host it on your own
site like all these other companies do... DUH!!!</div>
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<blockquote style="border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Trent Lapinski <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:trent@cyberchimps.com" target="_blank">trent@cyberchimps.com</a>></span> wrote: </blockquote>
<blockquote style="border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Actually they are absolutely are refusing to allow us to
use the name Responsive II. That's how this all got started. They stopped
our review and told us we can't use the name.</blockquote>
<div>NO THEY ARENT. They are just asking you that IF you want it hosted on
wporg, then either remove earlier theme, or rename the new one. You can do
whatever you want on your own site, just not on <a href="http://wordpress.org" target="_blank">wordpress.org</a></div>
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<blockquote style="border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Emil Uzelac <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:emil@uzelac.me" target="_blank">emil@uzelac.me</a>></span>
wrote:<br></blockquote>
<blockquote style="border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Have
you realized that you are the only one that does this?</span></blockquote>
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<div>And if you read the entire discussion, you will realize that everyone who
took part has sided with the admins. Only ones opposing them are you, Bryan
and Brad - the 3 people with vested interests. No neutral entity has
sided with your side of the argument.</div>
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<div>You can yell the loudest that this is bureaucracy, politics, injustice or
what not, but it seems you are the only one saying that, and the community
doesnt believe you.</div>
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<div>So stop being a rebel and behaving like a victim</div><span><font color="#888888">
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<div>Tina</div></font></span>
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<div>Bryan, kudos to you for conducting yourself in a dignified and
"respectful" manner.<br></div>
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<div>I am afraid I cant say the same about Trent. Call it condescending or
disrespectful, your conduct has been shameful. And yes, you have behaved
like a whiny lil girl who wont stop screaming till she gets her ice
cream.</div>
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<div>We are all intelligent adults here, so lets not mince words.
'Responsive' is a great keyword that a lot of people search for. You got
this *generic* theme name a long time ago (I dont think this name would have
been allowed had you released it today).</div>
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<div>Now before you jump on your bandwagon, let me say this, and I hope you
pay attention: I personally think its great for you that you got this
generic keyword theme name. We all run businesses at the end of the day, and
OPEN SOURCE IS NOT ANTI-COMMERCIAL. We all have to pay bills, and I get
that. But please atleast have the dignity to acknowledge that the reason for
sticking to the 'responsive' name is A LOT MORE THAN SIMPLE BRANDING
ISSUE.</div>
<div>It is more profitable for you to keep that name. Dead and simple (And
there is no shame in that btw. EARNING MONEY IS GOOD...)</div>
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<p dir="ltr">and don't worry if anyone else decide to submit the name
"Responsive Mobile". I got several other name:<br>"Responsive Z",
"Responsive XYZ", or maybe "Responsive 101".</p>
<p dir="ltr">if Cyberchimp can use the name "Responsive X" or
"Responsive..." then anyone should be able to do the same,
right?<br>because theme author/owner can transfer theme to other
person/user.<br>that means there should not be a special case to a
company/user.<br>because a week later(read: arbitrary time) the can decide
to sell the theme and the name to someone else. <br>(like in
Responsive).</p>
<p dir="ltr">note:<br>I think this is the "can of worms" otto mention in
email.<span><font color="#888888"><br></font></span></p><span><font color="#888888">
<p dir="ltr">-- David.<br></p></font></span>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 28, 2014 1:10 PM, "David Chandra" <<a href="mailto:david@shellcreeper.com" target="_blank">david@shellcreeper.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">
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<p dir="ltr">then, I can take the name "Responsive Mobile", right(?)</p>
<p dir="ltr">thank you!<br>I'll build the theme today.<br>and I'll submit
it maybe tomorrow.</p>
<p dir="ltr">David.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 28, 2014 8:12 AM, "Bryan Hadaway" <<a href="mailto:bhadaway@gmail.com" target="_blank">bhadaway@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">
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<div>Okay, thank you everyone who participated in debating the
issue.<br><br></div>We'll come up with a new name "Responsive X" - "X"
representing a word that doesn't conflict with the current naming
scheme.<br><br></div>We can consider the issue resolved and closed, at
least for our specific
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