<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>What's the difference? It's still a violation of this rule.<br><br><div>--Trent Lapinski</div><div>CEO of <a href="http://CyberChimps.com">CyberChimps.com</a></div>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Sep 27, 2014, at 3:31 PM, Srikanth Koneru <<a href="mailto:tskk79@gmail.com">tskk79@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">It is a year name, not a version of "twenty" theme<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 4:00 AM, Trent Lapinski <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:trent@cyberchimps.com" target="_blank">trent@cyberchimps.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Is that officially the only solution? Calling it "Responsive Mobile" - I didn't get a confirmation?</div><div><br></div><div>Whether the review was started or not is irrelevant. We are not being allowed to move forward with the name. That is true, and not disinformation.</div><div><br></div><div>Also, all of the default WordPress themes spell out numbers in their name. Does this mean Twenty Fifteen won't be allowed now due to this rule?</div><span class=""><div><br><div>-Trent</div><div>CEO CyberChimps Inc. </div>Sent from my iPad</div></span><div><div class="h5"><div><br>On Sep 27, 2014, at 3:08 PM, Emil Uzelac <<a href="mailto:emil@uzelac.me" target="_blank">emil@uzelac.me</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Review never started and you were informed ahead of time. Please stop sending disinformation. You agreed on Responsive Mobile. Where is the problem now?<span></span><br><br>On Saturday, September 27, 2014, Trent Lapinski <<a href="mailto:trent@cyberchimps.com" target="_blank">trent@cyberchimps.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Actually they are absolutely are refusing to allow us to use the name Responsive II. That's how this all got started. They stopped our review and told us we can't use the name.</div><div><br></div><div>This means if you get a popular theme, and want to add new features that will break the previous generations websites you cannot release a follow up theme under the same brand. Your only options are to break millions of websites, or completely rebrand according to this rule.</div><div><br></div><div>That's why this debate has lasted nearly 24 hours now. The admins have decided I cannot use my own name for my theme with a version number in the name.<br><br><div>--Trent Lapinski</div><div>CEO of <a href="http://CyberChimps.com" target="_blank">CyberChimps.com</a></div>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Sep 27, 2014, at 2:37 PM, Srikanth Koneru <<a>tskk79@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div>God, did we say don't name it Responsive II ? <br></div>No we did not.<br><br></div>Admins only said don't submit it here as Responsive II<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 3:05 AM, Trent Lapinski <span dir="ltr"><<a>trent@cyberchimps.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Wrong.</div><div><br></div><div>I've heard from many theme authors who have tried and been rejected before. This rules been enforced for some time now apparently and the only reason this isn't common practice is because it hasn't been allowed.</div><div><br></div><div>Apple, Samsung, Microsoft, and dozens of Fortune 500 companies use names and numbers for products. Salesforce's latest development platform is called Salesforce1.</div><div><br></div><div>This is normal in the tech industry. <span><font color="#888888"><br><br><div>--Trent Lapinski</div><div>CEO of <a href="http://CyberChimps.com" target="_blank">CyberChimps.com</a></div>Sent from my iPhone</font></span></div><div><div><div><br>On Sep 27, 2014, at 2:06 PM, Emil Uzelac <<a>emil@uzelac.me</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Have you realized that you are the only one that does this?</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Trent Lapinski <span dir="ltr"><<a>trent@cyberchimps.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Cais,</div><div><br></div><div>I came to this list for help, all I received was pointless bureaucracy.</div><div><br></div><div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">It is wrong to prevent theme authors from using their own brand names for multiple products. This rule only serves to limit the freedoms of theme authors, which was never its intention. The purpose of this rule was to protect theme authors from having their names and brands from being stolen, not to prevent authors from using their own names and brands. </span></div></div><div><br></div><div>Did I get frustrated? Absolutely, TRT does not have the authority or the right to limit the freedoms of an open source community, and force theme authors to rebrand and rename their established product lines, and force thousands of developers to follow rules that no free open market would ever enact. You guys are over reaching your authority, and literally becoming the brand and naming police of the WordPress community. It is silly, offensive, and downright scary that you guys have all literally agreed to limit our rights.</div><div><br></div><div>I am trying to find a resolution to this problem without having my rights, and the rights of my fellow theme authors taken away by people who have contributed just as much as I have to this community. I have every right to be here, and I don't need to be an admin to have a say, nor do I need to be an admin to defend myself and others from pointless bureaucracy and unneeded politics.</div><span><div><br></div><div><div>-Trent</div><div>CEO CyberChimps Inc. </div>Sent from my iPad</div></span><div><div><div><br>On Sep 27, 2014, at 11:06 AM, Edward Caissie <<a>edward.caissie@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Trent Lapinski <span dir="ltr"><<a>trent@cyberchimps.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Condescending yes, ...</blockquote></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Thanks for making your position and opinion of the WordPress Theme Reviewers and Administrators that much more obvious.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Feel free to carry on the conversation. I have already expressed my opinion and your admission really doesn't give me much reason to reconsider what I have already written about theme names.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br clear="all"><div>Edward Caissie<br>aka Cais.</div>
</div></div>
</div></blockquote></div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><span><br><span>theme-reviewers mailing list</span><br><span><a>theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a></span><br><span><a href="http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers" target="_blank">http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers</a></span><br></span></div></blockquote></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
theme-reviewers mailing list<br>
<a>theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>
<a href="http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers" target="_blank">http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers</a><br>
<br></blockquote></div><br></div>
</div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>theme-reviewers mailing list</span><br><span><a>theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a></span><br><span><a href="http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers" target="_blank">http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers</a></span><br></div></blockquote></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
theme-reviewers mailing list<br>
<a>theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>
<a href="http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers" target="_blank">http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers</a><br>
<br></blockquote></div><br></div>
</div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>theme-reviewers mailing list</span><br><span><a>theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a></span><br><span><a href="http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers" target="_blank">http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers</a></span><br></div></blockquote></div></blockquote>
</div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>theme-reviewers mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org" target="_blank">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a></span><br><span><a href="http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers" target="_blank">http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers</a></span><br></div></blockquote></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
theme-reviewers mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>
<a href="http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers" target="_blank">http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers</a><br>
<br></blockquote></div><br></div>
</div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>theme-reviewers mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a></span><br><span><a href="http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers">http://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/theme-reviewers</a></span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>