<div dir="ltr">No, I'm not an SEO expert. I'm not even an SEO novice. But even I can tell the difference between:<div><br></div><div>Theme A name: "Some Name"</div><div>Theme B name: "Some Name by Amazing SEO Keywords"</div>
<div><br></div><div>The latter is the intent of the current guideline.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Srikanth Koneru <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tskk79@gmail.com" target="_blank">tskk79@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>Chip, both are seo seeded, I think you don't have much SEO/Internet marketing knowledge/experience?<br>
</div>Otto, which search are you talking about Google or theme directory?<br>
<br></div>This is how it works :<br><br></div>I make a theme, name it "Premium Photography" get it into directory, I get a url <a href="http://www.wordpress.org/themes/premium-photography" target="_blank">www.wordpress.org/themes/premium-photography</a> and my credit link will be <a href="<a href="http://www.wordpress.org/themes/premium-photography" target="_blank">http://www.wordpress.org/themes/premium-photography</a>">Premium Photography Theme</a><br>
<br></div>I get downloads from directory which will get me link juice, combining the link juice and <a href="http://wordpress.org" target="_blank">wordpress.org</a> domain authority I am already in the top 3-7 ranks on google, give it some time to get more downloads and build links and I am in top 1-3 and I now have a steady monthly pay check with no effort.<br>
<br></div>All you need is a half decent theme and a nice keyword, now if I get lucky and it gets featured, I can buy a nice car or a house.<br></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 12:05 AM, Chip Bennett <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net" target="_blank">chip@chipbennett.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Theme A name: "Premium Photography"<div>Theme B name: "AwesomeSauce by Awesome Free WP Themes"</div>
<div><br></div><div>One is SEO-seeded. The other is not.</div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Srikanth Koneru <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tskk79@gmail.com" target="_blank">tskk79@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Chip, the guideline I am talking about is filed under "Theme Name" heading and not under "Credit Links"<br><br>"Themes are <strong>not</strong> to use Theme author/developer credit text in their name. For example <em>AwesomeSauce by John Q. Developer</em> (makes for a much better credit link); or, SEO/SPAM-seeded text, such as: <em>AwesomeSauce by Awesome Free WP Themes</em>."<br>
<br></div>It says theme name should not use seo text or spam text in theme name.<br><br></div>My intention is not to antagonize admins, just want to know when does it get spammy and what definition of spam is for you.<br>
</div>You know, put a definition so in future we won't have these misunderstandings.<br></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 11:54 PM, Chip Bennett <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net" target="_blank">chip@chipbennett.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">The Guidelines say that *credit links* should not have SEO keywords.<div><br></div><div>There's a big difference. The point of the guideline is to avoid *stuffing* the credit link with words *other* than the Theme name. Using the Theme name as the credit link is the requirement, and using the Theme name as the credit link would never inherently fall under "SEO seeding".</div>
</div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:09 PM, Srikanth Koneru <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tskk79@gmail.com" target="_blank">tskk79@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Otto, you are agreeing "premium photography" is a bad SEO attempt, but that guideline says names should not have SEO keywords.<br>
</div>So tomorrow is someone submits "premium responsive photography" is that acceptable? When does it become spam? Just curious.<br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 11:24 PM, Otto <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:otto@ottodestruct.com" target="_blank">otto@ottodestruct.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div dir="ltr">I'm going to make this real, real simple.<div><br></div><div>First off, I don't understand why this is even an argument. "Premium Photography" strikes me as a perfectly acceptable name. Not spammy even a little bit.<div>
<br></div><div>That said, if theme names being submitted do get to a point of actually being "spammy", then I'll simply put a stop to it... with great prejudice. I don't use override authority often, but any actual spam found *will be stopped*.</div>
<div><br></div><div>We don't allow spam on WordPress.org, and that's a flat rule that is well above and beyond any of the theme-review team's decision. We know spam and abuse when we see it, regardless of definitions decided by anybody else's guidelines. We hate spam, and will not abide its presence on the site.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">My suggestion would be to choose names for names and not for any form of SEO text. Names are not keywords nor search terms, they're names. Names should be unique. From that perspective, "Premium Photography" is a terrible name. It is neither descriptive nor, in fact, a "name". It doesn't lend itself well to discussion or to searching based on its unique identity. It's a *bad* SEO attempt, frankly. But it's not quite "spam".</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div></font></span><div class="gmail_extra"><span><font color="#888888"><div>-Otto</div></font></span><div><div><br></div><div><br></div>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:32 AM, Daniel Fenn <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:danielx386@gmail.com" target="_blank">danielx386@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
Chip, is there any chance that you can bring the discussion over to<br>
the mailing list and allow others to have a say? I know that the OP<br>
wants it admin only but I feel that anyone should be able to have<br>
their say, as long as it respectful.<br>
Regards,<br>
Daniel Fenn<br>
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