<div dir="ltr">"<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri;font-size:medium">Coincidently, don’t set a ‘front page displays’ ... it is not required to do so, nor necessary.</span>"<div><br></div><div>This is exactly and entirely your problem.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Yes, you DO have to tell WordPress if/when you don't want the blog posts index to display on the front page, and you do so via this setting, which updates get_option( 'show_on_front' ) - which in turn is used to set important things like $query->is_home.</div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:philip@frumph.net" target="_blank">philip@frumph.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Yes, it does. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Try it. </div>
<div> </div>
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<div><font size="3" face="Calibri">Coincidently, don’t set a ‘front page displays’
... it is not required to do so, nor necessary. I think that’s where
your thought process is failing, people who want the landing page to not change;
will not set the front page to be some “other” page. They want the events
that are triggered to be on the landing page to be ON the landing
page.</font></div>
<div><font size="3" face="Calibri"></font> </div>
<div><font size="3" face="Calibri">If the core dev’s wanted it to be required to
make the front-page be set if you set the posts page then they would have made
it so.</font></div>
<div><font size="3" face="Calibri"></font> </div>
<div><font size="3" face="Calibri"></font> </div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="chip@chipbennett.net" href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net" target="_blank">Chip Bennett</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 05, 2014 10:08 AM</div><div><div class="h5">
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<div dir="ltr">No, it won't, unless the Theme is doing something wonky to the
query.
<div> </div>
<div>1. Create two static pages, A & B</div>
<div>2. Settings -> Reading -> Front page displays = A static page</div>
<div>3. Settings -> Reading -> Front page = A</div>
<div>4. Settings -> Reading -> Posts page = B</div>
<div> </div>
<div>A will use front-page.php</div>
<div>B will use home.php</div></div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph)
<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:philip@frumph.net" target="_blank">philip@frumph.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
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<div>Just tested to make sure as well.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>IF you use a home.php file AND set the settings –> reading,
posts page as one of your sub pages, it will STILL use both home.php on the
index AND the posts page. Again, not what is wanted. So all of the
‘events’ that occur on the LANDING page are now duplicated on the page you set
as the POSTS page.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Again, not what is wanted; hence the use of the blog template is
necessary.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>I have these three files:</div>
<div> </div>
<div>front-page.php</div>
<div>home.php</div>
<div>index.php</div>
<div> </div>
<div>It ALWAYS runs the home.php for both locations, also executing all events
for is_home/front_page on both.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>front-page.php and index.php are not even looked at for either
position. </div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
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<div><font size="3" face="Calibri"></font> </div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="philip@frumph.net" href="mailto:philip@frumph.net" target="_blank">Philip M. Hofer (Frumph)</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 05, 2014 9:46 AM</div>
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<div style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri';COLOR:#000000;FONT-SIZE:12pt">
<div>.. chip, stop. Learn. a theme doesn’t have to be
made with anything but the index.php, a fallback doesn’t mean “don’t do it
this way'” it means that it’s the last one it checks to display if the others
don’t exist, most themes do *not* have the others.</div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="chip@chipbennett.net" href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net" target="_blank">Chip Bennett</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 05, 2014 9:38 AM</div>
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<div dir="ltr">"<span style="FONT-FAMILY:calibri;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px">but say the
theme’s index.php is made for the home page which have things inside of which
only run ON the intro-splash first page you hit,</span>"
<div> </div>
<div>That is incorrect usage of index.php. The index.php template file is the
default fallback for all contexts. It is NOT the site front page.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Please read these two posts:</div>
<div> </div>
<div><a href="http://www.chipbennett.net/2013/09/14/home-page-and-front-page-and-templates-oh-my/" target="_blank">http://www.chipbennett.net/2013/09/14/home-page-and-front-page-and-templates-oh-my/</a><br></div>
<div>and</div>
<div><a href="http://make.wordpress.org/themes/2014/06/28/correct-handling-of-static-front-page-and-custom-blog-posts-index-template/" target="_blank">http://make.wordpress.org/themes/2014/06/28/correct-handling-of-static-front-page-and-custom-blog-posts-index-template/</a><br>
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<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Philip M. Hofer
(Frumph) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:philip@frumph.net" target="_blank">philip@frumph.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
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<div dir="ltr">
<div style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri';COLOR:#000000;FONT-SIZE:12pt">
<div>Why would you need a sub page of a site to identify itself as
is_home(), it is not the front_page or home?</div>
<div> </div>
<div>That’s the point, to put the blog posts onto a separate sub page hence
the template; and not have it initiate functions that run as home.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Again, and I will make this point a little more clear. When
you run the settings –> reading, ‘a static page’ [ set the posts
page ] You are running the WordPress’s template hierarchy, so the the
first thing it’s going to do is use the template structure of the
theme; for example, the index.php / but say the theme’s index.php is
made for the home page which have things inside of which only run ON the
intro-splash first page you hit, .. PEOPLE DO NOT WANT THAT; the
case-use here is that they want to move their blog posts to a sub page that
is NOT a home page.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>These are people who do not just “go in and modify a theme”, these are
users. They don’t create a home.php they don’t create a front-page.php
they use the theme and want to move their blog to a sub page from their
home.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>If “I” were to create a front-page.php or a home.php or otherwise when
people use the theme the template heirarchy uses those first when the
setting is not set; which defeats the purpose of having specific
functionality separated to begin with and then it cannot happen.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>And yeah, I still believe you won’t “get it”, and I have no more words
to say on the subject. It’s clear, you probably just need to
experiment some more on how it works. Or enlighten me otherwise.</div>
<div> </div>
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<div style="BACKGROUND:#f5f5f5">
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 05, 2014 7:40 AM</div>
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<div dir="ltr">I'm not sure I follow. Why would you need the blog posts index
query/context/template not be able to identify itself as such (is_home())?
<div> </div>
<div>The *blog* is the blog posts index, which should be rendered using the
Home Template Hierarchy. When settings are configured properly (i.e. as
defined by core), then a blog.php (i.e. a custom page template to render the
blog posts index) is pointless. It will never get used, unless the Theme
instructs the user to use a configuration other than the one defined by
core. I really can't think of a valid use, ever, for blog.php.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Post loops *other* than the blog posts index would use other
templates.</div></div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 8:03 AM, Philip M. Hofer
(Frumph) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:philip@frumph.net" target="_blank">philip@frumph.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr">
<div dir="ltr">
<div style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri';COLOR:#000000;FONT-SIZE:12pt">
<div>This is missing information. the only way for a posts
loop that does not want to recognize itself as a home page from functions
such as is_home or is_front_page is to use a custom blog.php file; the
keyword in the article is “index template” (unless someone can
clarify)</div>
<div> </div>
<div>for example, say you have an index.php file that has a
do_action(‘something’) in it and the function checks if is_front_page() go
ahead and execute, you go to settings and set a page to the posts it will
recognize that page as is_front_page; so if you don’t want
that (and there are reasons) then a blog.php is the only real
solution</div>
<div> </div>
<div style="FONT-STYLE:normal;DISPLAY:inline;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri';COLOR:#000000;FONT-SIZE:small;FONT-WEIGHT:normal;TEXT-DECORATION:none">
<div style="FONT:10pt tahoma">
<div><font size="3" face="Calibri">now, that’s just my understand on how I got
things to work properly for my theme; if someone has information on
the template hierarchy substitute that would be peachy.</font></div>
<div><font size="3" face="Calibri"></font> </div>
<div><font size="3" face="Calibri">(mind you that is WITHOUT changing the
template for the home page just not having the blog loop there and moving
it to it’s own subpage)</font></div>
<div><font size="3" face="Calibri"></font> </div>
<div><font size="3" face="Calibri"></font> </div>
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 05, 2014 4:55 AM</div>
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<div dir="ltr">You're welcome! :)</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Alex Lizar <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lizarweb@gmail.com" target="_blank">lizarweb@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Thanks Allot .It helped like a charm.
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<div>Great Weekend you too :)</div></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 4:38 PM, Joan Boluda <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:joan@boluda.com" target="_blank">joan@boluda.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Not recommended: <span></span><a href="https://make.wordpress.org/themes/2014/06/28/correct-handling-of-static-front-page-and-custom-blog-posts-index-template/" target="_blank">https://make.wordpress.org/themes/2014/06/28/correct-handling-of-static-front-page-and-custom-blog-posts-index-template/</a>
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<div><br><br>On Saturday, July 5, 2014, Alex Lizar <<a href="mailto:lizarweb@gmail.com" target="_blank">lizarweb@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Thank you Sir,
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<div>Can I use blog.php as a template here?</div></div>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Alex!
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<div>Home page and Front page info -> <a href="http://www.chipbennett.net/2013/09/14/home-page-and-front-page-and-templates-oh-my/" target="_blank">http://www.chipbennett.net/2013/09/14/home-page-and-front-page-and-templates-oh-my/</a></div>
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<div dir="ltr">Hello all,
<div> </div>
<div>I have a confusion on blog.php ? What I want is to show my
blog posts on a specific page on menu.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>And my sites home page populated using front-page.php
?</div>
<div> </div>
<div>I have gone through the reading setting option ,But could
not get the solution .</div>
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<div>I need a solution or suggestions.</div>
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