<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">This is a very healthy discussion. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Do you mind if we move this to our blog and continue from there?</div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Marga Satrya <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:satrya@satrya.me" target="_blank">satrya@satrya.me</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">I have 4 site list to get free images for my work including theme demo.<br>
<a href="http://hiresstock.com" target="_blank">http://hiresstock.com</a><br>
<a href="http://picjumbo.com" target="_blank">http://picjumbo.com</a><br>
<a href="http://pixabay.com" target="_blank">http://pixabay.com</a><br>
<a href="http://unsplash.com" target="_blank">http://unsplash.com</a></p>
<p dir="ltr">After I read some answer. None of them are gpl compatible. If I searched images under CC0, i just found a small good images.</p>
<p dir="ltr">My question, where I can get a good images for theme demos with almost the same quality with 4 site above?</p>
<p dir="ltr">If I purchase an images, does it compatible with gpl?</p>
<p dir="ltr">Cheers,<br>
Satrya</p><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">
<br><div style="color:#787878">On Thu, Jun 05, 2014 at 8:05 PM, Stephen Cui <<a href="mailto:scui2005@gmail.com" target="_blank">scui2005@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div style="background-image:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);background-repeat:initial initial">
<blockquote><div dir="ltr">Thanks - this is the guidelines I want to clarify. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Chip Bennett <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net" target="_blank">chip@chipbennett.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Explicit declaration has been required for quite some time. The latest Guidelines revisions now require that explicit declaration to be included in the Theme readme file, or a license file.<div>
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With explicit declaration, there is not need for reviewers to verify every single source, as long as you recognize and understand the terms of the license being declared.</div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra">
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On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Stephen Cui <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:scui2005@gmail.com" target="_blank">scui2005@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">I understand the screenshots are already policed and GPL applies to whole.theme. This is very clear. The question are:<div><br></div><div>- if we require theme authors to explicitly declare the source and licence for every single image (including images used in screenshot).<br>
</div><div>- if the reviewer has to verify every single source.</div><div><br></div><div>If this is the case, many (if not most) themes fail this criteria.</div><div><br></div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra">
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On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Chip Bennett <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net" target="_blank">chip@chipbennett.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">The Guidelines already state "100% GPL" for *everything* bundled with the Theme. I'm not sure how much clearer or more explicit they can be?</div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra">
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On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 8:33 AM, rose tail <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:metallicarosetail@gmail.com" target="_blank">metallicarosetail@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Yes exactly setting the new guideline is the best way for reviewer</div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Stephen Cui <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:scui2005@gmail.com" target="_blank">scui2005@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Are we going to police the screenshot? I feel that we may went too far for reviewer. If this is the case, we will have to set the guideline for reviewers. </div>
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On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Srikanth Koneru <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tskk79@gmail.com" target="_blank">tskk79@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">so many themes were approved with unsplash and pixabay images, have to watch the #1 queue carefully<br></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Chip Bennett <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net" target="_blank">chip@chipbennett.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Pixabay appears to be a site where copyright holders upload their images, and upon upload, Pixabay says, "by uploading, you agree to distribute your pictures under the terms we specify".<div>
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<div>So, if the images are Public Domain outside of/prior to uploading to Pixabay, then they remain Public Domain. But if the images are only CC0 because of the act of uploading to Pixabay, then they would be under the *actual* terms of the site. And those *actual* terms impose non-GPL-compatible restrictions.</div>
<div><br></div><div>So again: you have to go back to the license specified by the copyright holder.</div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Srikanth Koneru <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tskk79@gmail.com" target="_blank">tskk79@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">But sometime back, you said the CC0 mentioned on the image overrides that and you okayed pixabay, so that is now null and void?<br>
</div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 5:21 PM, rose tail <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:metallicarosetail@gmail.com" target="_blank">metallicarosetail@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Thanks a lot for you suggestion<div>:)</div><div><br></div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Chip Bennett <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net" target="_blank">chip@chipbennett.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Looking at the site's license terms:<div><a href="http://pixabay.com/en/service/terms/" target="_blank">http://pixabay.com/en/service/terms/</a><br>
</div><div><br></div><div>I don't think the images are licensed compatibly with GPL. For example:</div>
<div><br></div><div><ul style="margin:10px 18px;padding:0px;list-style-position:initial;color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:20.399999618530273px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px">
<b>You may not use Images for</b> pornographic, unlawful or other immoral purposes, or in a way that can give a bad name to depicted persons, or to imply endorsement of products and services by identifiable persons, brands, organisations, etc.</li>
<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px">You are not allowed to mass download Images with an application, <b>or reuse a big part of the Images for redistribution on a similar Website</b>.</li></ul></div><div><br></div><div>Neither of these terms is GPL-compatible.</div>
</div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 7:39 AM, Chip Bennett <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net" target="_blank">chip@chipbennett.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">What is the license of the specific image?<div><br></div><div>If you don't know, then you can't use it.</div>
</div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 7:38 AM, rose tail <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:metallicarosetail@gmail.com" target="_blank">metallicarosetail@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Can image be used from pixabay or not ?</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
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<div>On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Bryan Hadaway <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bhadaway@gmail.com" target="_blank">bhadaway@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Unfortunately, that's always a possibility and it absolutely happens.<br>
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Someone might rip off someone else's work or otherwise infringe and upload or re-release something under their claim of ownership or a new license, then anyone else that uses that work or even promotes it, shares it with others, ends up inadvertently and ignorantly violating the original owner's rights.<br>
<br></div>All we can do is navigate the sometimes tricky world of trademark and copyright law and respect other's rights as much as we can, with the information we have, be kind to one another, in other words, be mature adults and just use our common sense.<br>
<br>Then, if one day you get a legitimate cease and desist email (which sometimes is just as unfortunate for the person that has to send out such notices in the first place as it is for you to receive them), there's no reason to be scared or get defensive, you should simply apologize, let them know that you had no idea you were violating their rights and work to quickly and amicably resolve the issue. I'd say 9/10 times, that's all there is to it.<br>
<br>Unfortunately, some people/companies might, on rare occasion, try to seek monetary damages or to censor others whether you knew you were doing anything wrong or not. That's partly what <a href="http://www.chillingeffects.org/" target="_blank">http://www.chillingeffects.org/</a> is about covering.<br>
<br></div>It's kind of a hope for the best, prepare for the worst type situation. You can hope that everyone always does the right thing, but prepare for the fact that they most inevitably won't.<br></div></div>
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