<div dir="ltr"><div>that's priority #1, tickets in #3 and #4 disappear quickly<br></div>random is not a good idea, if implemented #3 and #4 will have 2-4 months wait time again.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 2:03 AM, Philip M. Hofer (Frumph) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:philip@frumph.net" target="_blank">philip@frumph.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>While inaccurate on the statement that everything is being assigned by a
(other) theme shop immediately, seeing how just this last month I did upwards of
20ish reviews because it was becoming over a week and 1/2 and noone was doing
reviews but myself and tsk at the time; however I can see how that this
justification can be reproached to it not being and appropriately fair
method to keep implemented in that regard.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>I’d like to give my +1 to the random w/limit to last update
time. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>While I want my theme back on the featured list I cannot afford the time to
do all of those reviews that would permit that to happen.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>To even it out, it should just be removed and the the random display of
themes should be implemented to just remove any frustrations on all
parties.</div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="trent@cyberchimps.com" href="mailto:trent@cyberchimps.com" target="_blank">Trent Lapinski</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 29, 2014 12:24 PM</div><div class="im">
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [theme-reviewers] Question: Someone Want to Take
Benefit Froma'Top Reviewer of the Month'.</div></div></div>
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<div style="font-size:small;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:'Calibri';display:inline;font-weight:normal">
<div>As the owner of a theme shop (CyberChimps) being forced by the .org admins
to now pay employees to do theme reviews I inherently hate that we are being
forced win the contest to keep our themes featured. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>We use to do theme reviews to contribute to the community but now that
we're being forced to do them to be able to afford to support our themes it
feels more like extortion then a community contribution.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Responsive has had over a million downloads, and is the most people theme
on .org that isn't a default theme. We were featured for some time, but were
unfeatured without explanation and saw a dramatic decline in downloads, and
revenue. Now we're stuck maintaining a massive theme that is no longer
supporting itself, providing support and maintaining a popular theme like
Responsive isn't cheap. You'd think .org would want to reward their most popular
theme, instead we're having to delay the release of 2.0, and are being forced to
rededicate our resources to win the review contest so we can get downloads and
revenue back up so we can even continue development.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>We point blank have asked .org admins what we can do to be considered for
being featured again and there answer was to pay people to win the contest every
month. A contest that isn't even being maintained monthly, that is being gamed
by other theme shops.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>What was once a community contribution has been turned into a confusing
nightmare. We can't even get themes to review because other theme shops are
assigning themselves everything ticket immediately. The system is absolutely
being gamed, and soon the cost of entry won't even be feasible for CyberChimps,
so I have no idea how anyone else is going to even have a chance.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>We should be rewarding the best and most popular themes, not extorting
theme shops and preventing everyone else from being featured. Theme reviews
should be a community contribution and have nothing to do with featured
themes. </div>
<div>
<div> </div>
<div>-Trent</div>
<div>CEO CyberChimps Inc. </div>Sent from my iPad</div>
<div><br>On Jan 29, 2014, at 11:49 AM, Srikanth Koneru <<a href="mailto:tskk79@gmail.com" target="_blank">tskk79@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>
<div dir="ltr">
<div>Not possible for an individual to compete against the might of theme
shops. They can have 4 guys reviewing 4 themes simultaneously.<br></div>Was
this vote admin only vote? don't recall it on the list.<br></div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 1:14 AM, Edward Caissie <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:edward.caissie@gmail.com" target="_blank">edward.caissie@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr">I was originally out-voted on not allowing "theme shops" have
one account for all of their employees to use as I was concerned it would
create an "unfair advantage" for them to choose a Featured Theme (and why
wouldn't they choose their own?) so there is not much more I can add to this
conversation except to say I agree for the most part with Otto's
responses.</div><span><font color="#888888"></font></span>
<div class="gmail_extra"><span><font color="#888888"><br clear="all">
<div>Edward Caissie<br>aka Cais.</div></font></span>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Philip M. Hofer
(Frumph) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:philip@frumph.net" target="_blank">philip@frumph.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
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<div>Could always have the random themes that display be pulled by date as
well, max 1 year since last update sort of thing.</div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="jomcastaneda@gmail.com" href="mailto:jomcastaneda@gmail.com" target="_blank">Jose Castaneda</a>
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 29, 2014 11:14 AM</div>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [theme-reviewers] Question: Someone Want to Take
Benefit From a'Top Reviewer of the Month'.</div></div></div></div></div>
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<div>I think the issue that arose was exploiting the system by reviewing
that persons theme regardless of position in the queue of tickets.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>At least that is my take. I received a similar email about two months
back. I never responded, just deleted it. <br><br>Sent from my
iPhone</div>
<div><br>On Jan 29, 2014, at 11:01 AM, Rohit Tripathi <<a href="mailto:rohitink@live.com" target="_blank">rohitink@live.com</a>>
wrote:<br><br></div>
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<div>
<div dir="ltr">A Very Good Point raised by Emil.<br><br>
<div>
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 12:52:26 -0600<br>From: <a href="mailto:emil@uzelac.me" target="_blank">emil@uzelac.me</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org" target="_blank">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>
Subject: Re:
[theme-reviewers] Question: Someone Want to Take Benefit From a 'Top
Reviewer of the Month'.<br><br>
<div dir="ltr">
<div style="FONT-FAMILY:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I am with Chip
here, paying your employee or employ someone</div>
<div style="FONT-FAMILY:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">is 100% the same,
no difference whatsoever.</div>
<div style="FONT-FAMILY:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </div>
<div style="FONT-FAMILY:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">The moment we said
yes to commercial Theme shops to have their </div>
<div style="FONT-FAMILY:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">people review
tickets under a single username, is the moment we allowed </div>
<div style="FONT-FAMILY:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">this very thing as
well. Not sure what is the problem?</div>
<div style="FONT-FAMILY:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </div>
<div style="FONT-FAMILY:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Every time one of
us mentions Featured Themes, entire* community jumps</div>
<div style="FONT-FAMILY:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">on. When we need
help, only few of us replies. How come?</div>
<div style="FONT-FAMILY:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </div>
<div style="FONT-FAMILY:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="http://make.wordpress.org/themes/2014/01/28/time-for-a-new-team-rep/" target="_blank">http://make.wordpress.org/themes/2014/01/28/time-for-a-new-team-rep/</a> </div>
<div style="FONT-FAMILY:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </div>
<div style="FONT-FAMILY:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </div>
<div style="FONT-FAMILY:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </div>
<div style="FONT-FAMILY:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </div>
<div style="FONT-FAMILY:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </div></div>
<div><br><br>
<div>On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Srikanth Koneru <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tskk79@gmail.com" target="_blank">tskk79@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;PADDING-LEFT:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">all 3 options can be manipulated unfortunately, admin
choice is fine but a bit more frequently would be nice.<br></div>
<div>
<div>
<div><br><br>
<div>On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:19 PM, Konrad Sroka <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:konrads@themekraft.com" target="_blank">konrads@themekraft.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;PADDING-LEFT:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>Otto +10000 </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Why not get rid of the featured themes sections like it is now
and have a filter for <br></div>
<div> </div>
<div>"most downloaded" and "best rated" </div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Maybe add a filter or tag for commercially supported themes, so
you know you can get professional support and stuff like that..
</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Or make a poll on <a href="http://wordpress.org" target="_blank">wordpress.org</a> twice a year and the results are the
"featured" themes </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Cheers, Konrad </div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div></div>
<div>
<div>
<div><br><br>
<div>On 29 January 2014 18:25, Rohit Tripathi <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rohitink@live.com" target="_blank">rohitink@live.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;PADDING-LEFT:1ex"><div>
<div dir="ltr">I am not in favour of switching Featured themes to a
Random Themes Section. Because Many themes in the repository are
outdated or not fully compatible with recent versions of WP.
<div> </div>
<div>+1 for the Redesign of landing Page. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>:)<br><br>
<div>
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From: <a href="mailto:zulfikarnore@live.com" target="_blank">zulfikarnore@live.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org" target="_blank">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>
Date:
Wed, 29 Jan 2014 17:11:33 +0000
<div>
<div><br>Subject: Re: [theme-reviewers] Question: Someone Want to
Take Benefit From a 'Top Reviewer of the Month'.<br><br>
<div dir="ltr">Part of the original question asked "has this
happened to anyone" (not the exact words) - the answer is yes, not
once not twice but a good few times. Initial response? I responded
with not part of my business plan/working model! Then followed by
"mark as junk" and now that is where (if any) those emails land
and deleted without a first look never mind a second.<br><br>For
me the incentive scheme and having a theme featured for my hard
work is only a bonus - true benefit is derived from learning code
as Otto said. The real reward out of it all will be when one day I
create a theme from scratch, submit, have it reviewed, approved
and made live without a single issue being raised - now that is
(will be) the achievement :)<br><br>So,<br><br>1) Should we be
paid to review themes in order to win and get the payer's theme
featured? Certainly Not!<br><br>2) Should commercial theme shops
pay their employees to review for the same end in mind? Weather
they get a theme featured or not they are going to pay their
employee regardless. So that is their prerogative - but should
they hire for the sole purpose of reviewing and getting featured?
To me that is no any difference to 1 above and is a No!, but who
is going to police it?<br><br>Solution? Switch the "Featured
themes" section to a "Random themes" section and let the system
cycle though all and any theme on a given time period and everyone
is a winner. Easier said than done with over 2000 themes I know
:)<br><br>I second and +1 the call for a redesign of the landing
page. <br><br>
<div>
<hr>
From: <a href="mailto:christine@bluelimemedia.com" target="_blank">christine@bluelimemedia.com</a><br>Date: Wed, 29 Jan
2014 08:02:39 -0800<br>To: <a href="mailto:theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org" target="_blank">theme-reviewers@lists.wordpress.org</a><br>Subject:
Re: [theme-reviewers] Question: Someone Want to Take Benefit From
a 'Top Reviewer of the Month'.<br><br>
<div dir="ltr">Awesome, I'll see what I can do. </div>
<div>
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<div><i><b></b></i>Christine Rondeau<br>Bluelime Media<br><a href="http://www.bluelimemedia.com" target="_blank">www.bluelimemedia.com</a><br>twitter: @bluelimemedia
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<div>On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 7:58 AM, Otto <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:otto@ottodestruct.com" target="_blank">otto@ottodestruct.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;PADDING-LEFT:1ex">On Wed,
Jan 29, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Christine Rondeau<br><<a href="mailto:christine@bluelimemedia.com" target="_blank">christine@bluelimemedia.com</a>> wrote:<br>>
I still think that<br>> rethinking the theme landing page
with a better more visual design would be<br>> nice.<br><br>I
wholeheartedly agree. Poke your designer friends. We need a
better design. :)<br>
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