<div dir="ltr">With WordPress 3.9 quickly approaching, now is a good time to discuss changes. I'll put up a post on Make/Themes. :)</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Emil Uzelac <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:emil@uzelac.me" target="_blank">emil@uzelac.me</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">I have zero issues with that, but we should add few lines in our guidelines :-)</p><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">
<div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 24, 2014 12:12 PM, "Chip Bennett" <<a href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net" target="_blank">chip@chipbennett.net</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Regardless of the Guidelines' stance on bundled Plugins, reviews should *always* be conducted without any recommended Plugins.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Josh Pollock <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jpollock412@gmail.com" target="_blank">jpollock412@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">+1 to Chip on making this a formal part of the guidelines.<div><br></div><div>I think the guidelines should specify if the review will be conducted with and without any recommended plugins activated or just without.</div>
</div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Jose Castaneda <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jomcastaneda@gmail.com" target="_blank">jomcastaneda@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>I, too, feel it can be a requirement that themes not bundle it.</div><div><br></div><div>It not only takes up storage within the theme's folder but can, and, may differ from one in the repo. Who's to say they don't do a bait and switch.</div>
<div><br></div><div>From what I recall from wptavern's post about the plugin repo they are able to approve a plugin fairly quickly. The biggest reason for not getting approved is because the developer doesn't respond/fix the issues.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><div><div><br>On Jan 24, 2014, at 8:37 AM, Chip Bennett <<a href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net" target="_blank">chip@chipbennett.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div>
<blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">...which explains why bundled Plugins should not be allowed. Theme reviewers cannot reasonably be expected to review Plugin code.<div><br></div><div>We've been discussing it for a while now. Unless there remains some reasonable opposition, I would like to formalize it, and require that Themes not bundle Plugins.</div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Christine Rondeau <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:christine@bluelimemedia.com" target="_blank">christine@bluelimemedia.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Oh, oh.. I wasn't aware of that. I reviewed the theme, didn't see anything wrong and so marked it as approved. I didn't even think to review the plugins, but I don't think that I could anyway. Plugins fall in a total different category. <div>
<br></div><div>I also work for cyberchimps. I do customer support for them and I have a few themes in the repo under my name. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><br clear="all">
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<br><br></div><div><div><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:31 AM, Srikanth Koneru <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tskk79@gmail.com" target="_blank">tskk79@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr"><div>In recent discussion, its recommended not to bundle the plugin, if its bundled then it has to be reviewed too.<br></div>you work for cyberchimps too?<br></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra">
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On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Emil Uzelac <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:emil@uzelac.me" target="_blank">emil@uzelac.me</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<p dir="ltr">Please don't beat yourself up, we have so many questions and discussions going on and it ain't easy to keep up with all of them :-)</p><div><div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 24, 2014 1:14 AM, "Christine Rondeau" <<a href="mailto:christine@bluelimemedia.com" target="_blank">christine@bluelimemedia.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Ok good to know. I must have misread or thought I read about plugins not being allowed as part of the theme. I try to keep up with the list, but there's a bit too much sometimes . :)<div><br></div><div>
I'll approve the theme then, since I think the rest is ok.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Cheers</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><i><b></b></i>Christine Rondeau<br>Bluelime Media<br><a href="http://www.bluelimemedia.com" target="_blank">www.bluelimemedia.com</a><br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:10 PM, Emil Uzelac <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:emil@uzelac.me" target="_blank">emil@uzelac.me</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<p dir="ltr">We don't have any special guidelines about plugin being part of the Theme. It's recommended, but no it is not required. Many authors do :-)</p>
<div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On Jan 24, 2014 1:00 AM, "Christine Rondeau" <<a href="mailto:christine@bluelimemedia.com" target="_blank">christine@bluelimemedia.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">
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<div dir="ltr">Just want to double check again, but I seem to recall that plugins CANNOT be bundled with themes.<div><br></div><div>I'm reviewing a theme right now - <a href="https://themes.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/16203#comment:4" target="_blank">https://themes.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/16203#comment:4</a></div>
<div>and the theme works without the plugin and installing the plugins is optional, but if you choose to install these, they are downloaded directly from the theme.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm pretty sure that this is not allowed right?<br>
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